Gerald Moreno: Fighting A Losing War
Although the title of this post is actually a correct summation of our favourite critic's passionate hate campaign, we note that it is directly relevant to his response to our previous posting: Tackling A Krishna Problem.
A sample from his latest diatribe should be sufficient to prove the point:
It should be noted that Gerald Moreno has repeated the same sentiments in different ways within his hateful stalkblogs and websites, the main points being that Krishna (as God) "failed" in his mission to avert the Mahabharata war despite His personal intervention to the Kurus on behalf of the Pandavas. The thing to remember with Moreno is that he tends to unsuccessfully cover himself with an "if" clause. Just see how he refers to the Mahabharata War as being the most bloodiest disaster ever to happen in the history of the world, if it happened. Rivers of blood flowed and the entire armies on both sides perished needlessly, if accounts are to be believed.
Considering Moreno's appalling history (See Sarvadharma Imbroglio and 16,000 Wives essays) in defending the philosophical ideas of his pervert guru, Sai Baba, I'm surprised that he still hasn't learnt to quit while he is still behind. This is one of those times when the onus is on Moreno to pick a position and stick with it: Did the Mahabharata War occur in real history or not?
This is an important question not for us, but for Moreno. If Gerald believes that the Mahabharata War happened, then he will have to stand up in public and face ridicule for belief in a "mythical" war of which no records exist. If Moreno believed that the Mahabharata War never happened, then what on earth is he talking about and how do any of his points about Krishna's "failure" apply to Sathya Sai Baba? The lynchpin of his whole argument rests on his answer to this question, and we can guess why, can't we?
Yes, you heard me right. Moreno's big hero is himself an avid believer and preacher of the Mahabharata War, frequently making references to this event in his discourses. Combined with Moreno's flip-flopping on the question of whether the war ever actually happened, talk about being caught between a rock and a hard place! :-)
In a talk with R.K. Karanjia, the only full-length interview Sai Baba has ever granted to the media:
And in a very famous discourse entitled "Who is Sai?", the Baba had the following to say:
We gladly note that in spite of previous failures to understand Sai Baba's teachings, Gerald Moreno would do extremely well to find a quiet corner and sit down with a random book from the 'Sathya Sai Speaks' series of discourses in order to better understand the teachings of his master.
Leave aside the fact that Sai Baba completely contradicts Moreno's contentions about Krishna's "failure", we may also note that Moreno has shot himself in both feet. The second quote above can be taken to an interpretation that allows the Expose campaign of the Baba's former followers to continue at full speed. According to Baba's own logic, his attempts to scream wildly at his supposedly prodigal children have no effect as per his own will. Consequently his ineffectual speech is just a show of going through the motions. They are a part of the drama that he has directed and thus we should be given freedom to play our part, and our critics can just buzz off. :-)
And since we are in knowledge of the fact that several senior leaders of the Sai Organisations are actively involved in behind-the-scenes work in refuting the Expose achievements in direct contravention of Sai Baba's orders, we can further note that this is nothing but pure hypocrisy.
And just in case you're wondering, Gerald Moreno's response to tackling his Krishna problem offered no philosophical or theological substance as fully expected. For a start, he mutilated my post and responded only to the part that suited him best, casting aside the rest. Specifically he highlighted my (admittedly insufficient) explanation of karmic interactions being the unerlying cause of conflicts and deliberately misrepresented my position as "defending" Sai Baba! My argument that, as an avatar, Sai Baba is fully responsible for the welfare of the world according to his own statements was completely ignored by Moreno. My point still stands and has not been addressed.
What else is left to do when the Avatar's own defenders are so intellectually dishonest that the bullets that they attempt to shoot at detractors only backfire and take out their own eyes? As observed earlier, they would do well to quit while they're still behind. :-)
A sample from his latest diatribe should be sufficient to prove the point:
"Furthermore, Sri Krishna and Sri Balaram got personally involved in a failed diplomacy attempt that resulted in (if true) the bloodiest war in recorded history in which millions of men were said to have died in a matter of 18 days and rivers of blood flowed from the carnage! Needless to say, both Krishna and Balaram were directly involved with the diplomats of the day and could not avert the war. As a matter of fact, devotees of Lord Krishna (like Sanjay) actually try to justify the Kurukshetra war by resorting to the same "spiritual" mumbo-jumbo that Sanjay blithely ranted about.
"For such an atrocity to happen casts valid doubts on Lord Krishna's ability to warn or protect his country despite his personal involvement with the diplomats of the day and despite the claims that Lord Krishna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead from whom an atomic particle supports and sustains the entire Universe!"
It should be noted that Gerald Moreno has repeated the same sentiments in different ways within his hateful stalkblogs and websites, the main points being that Krishna (as God) "failed" in his mission to avert the Mahabharata war despite His personal intervention to the Kurus on behalf of the Pandavas. The thing to remember with Moreno is that he tends to unsuccessfully cover himself with an "if" clause. Just see how he refers to the Mahabharata War as being the most bloodiest disaster ever to happen in the history of the world, if it happened. Rivers of blood flowed and the entire armies on both sides perished needlessly, if accounts are to be believed.
Considering Moreno's appalling history (See Sarvadharma Imbroglio and 16,000 Wives essays) in defending the philosophical ideas of his pervert guru, Sai Baba, I'm surprised that he still hasn't learnt to quit while he is still behind. This is one of those times when the onus is on Moreno to pick a position and stick with it: Did the Mahabharata War occur in real history or not?
This is an important question not for us, but for Moreno. If Gerald believes that the Mahabharata War happened, then he will have to stand up in public and face ridicule for belief in a "mythical" war of which no records exist. If Moreno believed that the Mahabharata War never happened, then what on earth is he talking about and how do any of his points about Krishna's "failure" apply to Sathya Sai Baba? The lynchpin of his whole argument rests on his answer to this question, and we can guess why, can't we?
Because Sai Baba preaches about
the truths of the Mahabharata War
in his books, discourses, and other media.
the truths of the Mahabharata War
in his books, discourses, and other media.
Yes, you heard me right. Moreno's big hero is himself an avid believer and preacher of the Mahabharata War, frequently making references to this event in his discourses. Combined with Moreno's flip-flopping on the question of whether the war ever actually happened, talk about being caught between a rock and a hard place! :-)
In a talk with R.K. Karanjia, the only full-length interview Sai Baba has ever granted to the media:
"The Mahabharata war was a different issue altogether. Lord Krishna decreed it and, in fact, led Arjuna to the battlefield in order to rid the world of evil men and ungodly forces." - September 1976
And in a very famous discourse entitled "Who is Sai?", the Baba had the following to say:
"My power is immeasurable; My truth is inexplicable, unfathomable ... Let me tell you that emphatic declarations of the truth by Avathars were made so clearly and so unmistakably only by Krishna. In spite of the declaration, you will notice in the career of the same Krishna that he underwent defeat in his efforts and endeavors, on a few occasions; you must also note that those defeats too were part of the drama that he had planned and that he himself directed. For example, when many kings pleaded with him to avert the war with the Kauravas, he confessed that his mission to the Kaurava Court for ensuring peace had 'failed'! But, he had not willed that it should succeed! He had decided that war would be waged! His mission was intended to publish the greed and iniquity of the Kauravas and to condemn them before the whole world." - 9 June 1974
We gladly note that in spite of previous failures to understand Sai Baba's teachings, Gerald Moreno would do extremely well to find a quiet corner and sit down with a random book from the 'Sathya Sai Speaks' series of discourses in order to better understand the teachings of his master.
Leave aside the fact that Sai Baba completely contradicts Moreno's contentions about Krishna's "failure", we may also note that Moreno has shot himself in both feet. The second quote above can be taken to an interpretation that allows the Expose campaign of the Baba's former followers to continue at full speed. According to Baba's own logic, his attempts to scream wildly at his supposedly prodigal children have no effect as per his own will. Consequently his ineffectual speech is just a show of going through the motions. They are a part of the drama that he has directed and thus we should be given freedom to play our part, and our critics can just buzz off. :-)
And since we are in knowledge of the fact that several senior leaders of the Sai Organisations are actively involved in behind-the-scenes work in refuting the Expose achievements in direct contravention of Sai Baba's orders, we can further note that this is nothing but pure hypocrisy.
And just in case you're wondering, Gerald Moreno's response to tackling his Krishna problem offered no philosophical or theological substance as fully expected. For a start, he mutilated my post and responded only to the part that suited him best, casting aside the rest. Specifically he highlighted my (admittedly insufficient) explanation of karmic interactions being the unerlying cause of conflicts and deliberately misrepresented my position as "defending" Sai Baba! My argument that, as an avatar, Sai Baba is fully responsible for the welfare of the world according to his own statements was completely ignored by Moreno. My point still stands and has not been addressed.
What else is left to do when the Avatar's own defenders are so intellectually dishonest that the bullets that they attempt to shoot at detractors only backfire and take out their own eyes? As observed earlier, they would do well to quit while they're still behind. :-)
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