Sai Baba EXPOSED!: Why I Left Sai Baba (in brief)

20 February 2006

Why I Left Sai Baba (in brief)

A lot of people have asked me now and again how and why I became a Sai devotee for so long, and also what caused me to leave his clutches.

At some point in the future I would like to discuss this matter in some depth as I feel that it is a story worth telling. In the meantime I would like to post my reply to a similar query that was asked of me not so long ago, as a provisional and brief explanation of why I came to leave Sai Baba:

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"While there were several troubling issues surrounding Sai Baba, the daddy of them all was how I was finding it increasingly impossible to reconcile his teachings with the true tradition of Sanathana Dharma that I had studied and been brought up in. I happen to be philosophically inclined and it was very hard for me to come to terms with the very real discrepancies that exist in his works, not to mention giving up my deep and reverent faith in 'God walking the earth', to whom I had given ten years of my life.

"After spending a long period of time in reflection, I decided that I had to be honest and admit the truth at least to myself. I felt that it would be extremely dishonest and dishonourable to continue with what I was beginning to perceive as a farce and thus, in the interests of truth and goodness, I discontinued my faith and belief in Sai Baba.

"I initially desired to quietly walk away from the situation and lead a peaceful life away from this fiasco, but on the encouragement of some very great ex-devotee friends I had made I was encouraged to stay and helpfully contribute to the efforts to bring Sai Baba to justice. I also felt that discussion of Sai Baba's philosophical inconsistencies and deviations, a subject that has received sparse treatment thus far, was an area that would be fulfilling. And so I carry on with this work up to this day."

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221 Comments:

you are wrong!

if you do not know sai baba do not come with your own spice and noodles.

By Anonymous, at 26 February, 2006 03:09
Hello, whoever you are.

How do you say I "do not know" Sai Baba when I was his devotee for just over ten years?

Stay tuned for more theological and philosophical exposés of Sai Baba's literary and verbal corpus.

By Swami Saiexposedananda, at 26 February, 2006 03:17
Very entertaining material on the Guru wannabees!

Just for some feedback - have come across Vishwananda before. Know people who have also gone to see him. Very very questionable as well! Rumour has it that he used to follow Sathya Sai years back, but now is aligning himself elsewhere. Also substantial talk of Vishwananda and his luring and malpractices with women in the last year or so!

By Anonymous, at 02 March, 2006 17:36
Sai ram, All i can say for you is that your ignorance is clouding you judgement, you seem to try and contradict everything that Swami does, and you try your best to twist everything to suit your ideas, however at the end of the day its just Maya. You can't see because you don't want to. No-one believed in Christ when he was there, so much so that he was made to be crucified, likewise, for laymen like you, one day you will eat your words.

By Anonymous, at 07 August, 2007 10:31
Whatever.

I can say the same thing. Your blind faith in Sai Baba twists your thinking so that you believe whatever you want to believe in order to keep your misguided faith in him.

At the end of the day, Sai Baba will get what is coming to him. Only blind people remain blind to indisputable relaity such as his current physical (wheelchair) plight, so much for an avatar.

By Swami Saiexposedananda, at 08 August, 2007 02:52
I salute you for being brave enough to accept this man is a pernicious fraud. I just wish all his followers could learn to be less credulous. well done sir you are truely a free thinker!

By Anonymous, at 25 August, 2007 23:47
Should we not leave it to each human being to make their own choices on faith....(just in case ppl are curious I am quite skeptical of Sai Baba as well....i believe that God is in all of us....so let ur heart/soul guide you....not anything anybody says )

By Anonymous, at 29 August, 2007 06:07
I personally think its quite funny reading your comments about who’s right and who’s wrong! I’m socked to know that you people are wasting time of precious LIVES for something so insignificant……. But again I think its ok, I guess!!! It’s better than trying to come closer to that ‘kid’ (GOD) who’s got golden spoon stuck up his ass!! Lucky guys!!

By Anonymous, at 30 August, 2007 10:06
If god is in all of us, so is he in you and also likes of Sai. Sai is not the teacher for you, he may be a teacher to many, but, for you, you are your your own teacher. In your search and hunger for true Self, you have found Sai along the way, and he has pointed out to you, that you are the ultimate teacher of your journey, that you do not seek him no more. I wish upon you peace, no matter where you find it, for that is what you seek. May you find it in your heart, the place where you can be the truest.

By Anonymous, at 07 September, 2007 20:03
you ought to be ashamed for not respecting other people's believes and posting such exposes.. please be open and receptive for God always comes in different forms at different times to save us foolish beings on Earth. By being so susceptible to listening to other people's so called weird accounts with Swami, it is evident you were not a true Swami devotee as you were swayed away from him so easily. May you one day realise and believe.
Jai Sai Ram

By Anonymous, at 17 September, 2007 03:20
Dear H.H.

It would sound like u were searching for the truth and sought answers from Sai Baba. But he never gave the answers u wanted to hear. MOVE ON!!

Don't waste ur small sadistic mind on writing rubbish. Allow others to make up their own mind and come to thier own conclusions as u have reached your own.

Ur blogs and 'why i left sai baba' bring u attention but does not threaten the existence of God.

This is an age of information, u and your friends should post ur stories so others are able to learn and make an informed judgement e.g. create a website. Otherwise u will fall and be laughed upon like other 'bible bashers'. If you posted the truth, then this may help others for generations to come?

Genuinly I came searching for information and am highly amused by ur blog. Direct ur energies elsewhere. e.g. studies, work & family. As not all individuals are capable of following a spiritual path.

Tomorrow I might become a 'priest' and give up all desires to reach God. Will I be keyboard bashed for helping others and guiding others towards God?

Belief is in the believer!!! Ur comments will not affect peoples beliefs but ur personal life story might!

Go forth and multiply & above all esle be happy!!

jy1008

By Anonymous, at 21 September, 2007 12:38
Hi H.H.

All 'swamis' are frauds cause God is in all of us at all times and we can attain god realisation without having to go to one.

I lived an agnostic-truthful life, following my heart and speaking the truth and as a result I realised God. But in this day and age could not cope with the constant presence of God. As a result lost my job, house and everything else.

No one could assist me or understand the realisation I had attained. If it was not for 'spiritual masters' I would have been locked up in some mental asylum.

With their literature I have reached a work-God balance and thank the information that was out there.

Which is why I urge u to not despair or hold a grudge as i was in your shoes once then attained self-realisation.

By Anonymous, at 21 September, 2007 12:54
may still baba bless you....bcos baba not a human to pounder or cry or laugh or ignore or etcetc...u are surely swayed away and still in search of your own self..om sai ram still baba bless...you.

By Anonymous, at 29 September, 2007 18:52
Hey...u have put in a lot of effort to bring up this site...thats good work...But then i feel that u contradict yourself...Well you had described about the "Daddy" which made you leave baba....Ok lets accept that....in such case you should be pointing out the difference in his teaching and the actual SANATHANA DARMA...but u seem more into talking and analysing other stuff surrounding him....Why that is so ???

By Anonymous, at 01 October, 2007 22:37
This post is being made as a last dying wish from my dear Sifu and Yogi Eric Faqir:

He wants all devotees of Sai Baba to know that Baba is as he quotes "a kundalini vampire."

"Baba grows the kundalini within you and when it has cultivated, he drains it out of you and steals your soul. Do not accept the gift of kundalini from Baba! These are my last words before death."

If you wish to know more about sifu Faqir, you may simply google his name. He phoned me from Mexico to say that this would be his last day on earth, Baba was draining the kundalini and all life from him.

Faqir spent a good amount of time in sittings with Baba on many occasions during his travels to India and although never a devotee, he developed considerable energy over past couple of years after finally accepting the "gift" from Baba.

I do not wish to insult anyones beliefs, I am only granting his last wish.

Jai Sifu

By Unknown, at 04 October, 2007 11:08
Hi,
lets have a rational approach to this whole SAGA..lets assume swami is farse...but still make a list of all good tings he has done..and start writing the names of all people who benefited from his Grace, either spritually,emotionally,financially,physically however..and on other hand start writing all bad he has done according to you and list of all those who lost something..see which list outweights which?

ofcourse u will never complete the godness list in ur lifetime.

God bless u.

By Anonymous, at 04 October, 2007 21:46
if u were infront of me, i would punch u in the face. u have no right to point out any flaws in Sai Baba. millions of people dont believe in Him without a reason. they believe in Him because He is a unique and holly figure.

the best advice i woudl give to u is go baq to Sai Baba's feet and appologize for ur misdeeds. His holliness has a enormous forgiving heart and He will accept u baq with open arms if u seriously mean wat u say.

By Anonymous, at 08 October, 2007 01:21
excuse meee, ur blogs are extremely upsetting . How on earth can u even talk like this about someone so holy. IF AT ALL U HAVE SOMETHING AGAINST HIM, U BETTER KEEP IT TO URSELF AND NOT PUBLISIZE IT IN SUCH A RUDE FASHION. There are crores of people who are devoted to saibaba which includes me .....and u have no right to write about our god in such an astonishingly bad way.....hope i have been polite enough to get things straight into ur skull!!

By Anonymous, at 29 October, 2007 20:58
Christianity, Buddhism, Jainism, Hinduism, Judaism....and the many other religions that exist, all teach some fundamental values at their core. Jesus Christ, Sai Baba, Krishna, Buddha all have these values at their core: Love, Peace, Non-violence, Truth and Right-conduct. You write about the discrepancies and the contradiction in Sai's teachings, and this is only a dis-service to youself and to the world. Do you get a sense of accomplishment and pleasure from telling the world you're a non-believer? Believe in whatever religion, faith or values that resonate with yourself, but there is no need for this trifling information. Ultimately God is in everything, everyone and is everywhere, so when you speak bad of another, you speak bad of the GOd within another, and also that of yourself. Who wins? Don't delude yourself into thinking you have won anything. You have been criticised by many readers, and the yet you have kept the post up? Karma will never fail. Have a good life mate.

By Anonymous, at 19 November, 2007 01:05
You would like to believe that all religions have those values at their core in common. This idea is undoubtedly from Sai Baba's teachings.

Maybe if you (or he) found some time to actually read up on those religionswill you be able to find out if that statement is really as true as you think it is.

By Swami Saiexposedananda, at 20 November, 2007 14:01
I agree with all of you, as you all are entitled to your point of view. Well here is my point of view, no matter what Baba says or any other spiritual leader, its all good to hear the teaching, you get some sort of mental peace. As far as search for the truth / search for your true self, c'mon guys who are we kidding, end of the day its all about survival, after being born on this earth.

By Anonymous, at 27 November, 2007 15:26
I agree with all of you, as you all are entitled to your point of view. Well here is my point of view, no matter what Baba says or any other spiritual leader, its all good to hear the teaching, you get some sort of mental peace. As far as search for the truth / search for your true self, c'mon guys who are we kidding, end of the day its all about survival, after being born on this earth.

By Anonymous, at 27 November, 2007 15:28
First of all,
I must say I am dissapointed in the Sai devotees who are either being rude, mean, or aggressive in anyway towards the blogger. That is Not what Swami would want us to say or do or even feel. Whats the point of actually beleiving in Sami if we aren't going to be transformed, though I do understand the aggrevation one feels when our dear loving Swami is insulted, as I am also hurt. But by acting in this way, we are only adding fuel to the fire and misrepresenting Swami. So please, if any of you have written anything hurtful or rude to the blogger please write a simple "I'm sorry and I love you for the god in you and I." Second, to the blogger, I apologize on behalf of all Sai devotees who have been hostile they are blinded by their love for their guru/god/saint/fraud whatever name you wish to call him he doesn't care. Also, I hope you find peace in your life since that is the ultimate goal and may you be happy, healthy, and full of love for your fellow man. God Bless you! Whomever that is for you. May you beleive whatever you want just know that God exists and he loves you every minute of your life.

If you're a Sai devotee and you want to see swami happy, don't forget to send a "I'm sorry and I love you for the god in you an dI" on behalf of yourself or other Sai devotees. Let's spread love no matter what the other person says always "Love All"
Take Care (for the blogger)
&
Sairam (for the sai devotees)

Punit

By Anonymous, at 09 December, 2007 19:58
Thank you Punit. That sounds like something I'd expect to hear from a Sai devotee. I certainly hope you get the blessings of God in your life for your kind feelings.

By Swami Saiexposedananda, at 14 December, 2007 18:32
Mr H.H
ups and downs are everyones part of life. if i m sai devotee that does not mean that i will always remain happy throughout my life. rite now i m going through a very tough phase of my life but i still believe in GOD like anything. if u failed to overcome the failures in ur life that does not mean u criticize someone else for it. u must understand that u r a big faliure. not sai baba who is uneffected by ur nonsense.
aum sai ram

By Anonymous, at 18 December, 2007 04:35
FROM RAMESH NAIR.... BUDDAH SAID. you are what you think you are.FOR YOU NOT TO BELEAVE IN BABA IS YOUR CHOISE AND ALSO YOUR PLEASURE.MAY GOD BLESS YOU. STOP DOING WHAT YOU ARE DOING AS IT WILL EAT YOU SLOWLY.YOU MIGHT HAVE TO EAT YOUR WORDS ONE DAY.
FOR THAT LET ME SAY THIS TO YOU.(TO SAVE YOUR FACE YOU HAVE TO KEEP THE LOWER PART OF IT SHUT)

By Anonymous, at 19 December, 2007 09:27
well, There is no incarnation of Shirdi sai.
He only left his body, but he is omnipresent. Satya sai is entirely different from shirdi baba theres no comparison between the
shirdi Sai is the real GOD rest all are FRAUD

By Unknown, at 21 December, 2007 11:23
So I'm a big failure because I've figured out that Sathya Sai Baba is a charlatan and a liar?

He lied about being the reincarnation of Shirdi Sai Baba, and he lied about his own date of birth! He has lied about so many things that it is near impossible to count all of his lies.

I guess I am a big failure because I failed to be overcome by his love and compassion when the glare of his lies was blinding my eyes....

By Swami Saiexposedananda, at 21 December, 2007 18:10
very disappointed at your thougths (towards the blogger)...but that is your thougth n u hv every right to think dat way.....in every which way i think all sai devotees shud remain calm and unaffected....
whether u wud like to except it or not..he is always with you....
may god bless you

sai love

By Anonymous, at 29 December, 2007 01:03
Thank you anon, though I rather think your disappointment is really based on the fact that I do not (or refuse to) think about Sai Baba the same way that you do.

I find that one would find things much more enlightening if open minds allowed for a challenge of strongly-held notions. Who knows, one may even discover something entirely new and original!

By Swami Saiexposedananda, at 29 December, 2007 03:04
Great one! Expose that fake ass God wannabe. Krishna is known as Madan mohan ( one who attracts even cupid) but look at this guy. Cupid will not even look at him. As long as there are the cheated, the cheaters will be there!

GOOD WORK AND KEEP IT UP!

By Anonymous, at 31 December, 2007 14:27
Sairam Brother,

Swami will never stop loving you... He is with you, loving him or ignoring his divinity everything is his will dear.

Enjoy the divine drama,

By Anonymous, at 02 January, 2008 07:06
It may be worth pointing out that the "Sai Baba" mentioned in this article is SATHYA sai baba and NOT Sai Baba of Shirdi a Saint from the late 19th and early 20th Century.

By Anonymous, at 08 January, 2008 18:15
You meet your guru, spend time with him/here but then what? Having read things by current devotees and ex-devotees of gurus from Sai Baba to Adi Da, i don't see an essential quality of unfettered thinking in either camps. Even if the discources by the gurus are excellent regarding the nature of reality, etc, at the end of the day... there's only oneself to be held accountable for.

By Anonymous, at 17 January, 2008 08:31
Dear All,

For me,the idea of God and Sathya Sai is NOT the same.
I have not seen god but i believe that god comes from the goodness in your heart.
All humans are equal and i can never see the idea behind human worship.But i do believe in the idea of respecting a human being who 'deserves' it. Like i respect Baba Ramdev(of India) who is changing millions of lives through 'yoga', i could have respected Sathya Sai baba, but i WONT cos enough said about him. Where there is smoke,theres fire.So much written about his con and his character,there is bound to be something really wrong about him and he does not deserve my respect.

By Anonymous, at 21 January, 2008 11:38
That is indeed a very wise observation, Anonymous. Where there's smoke there's fire, I quite agree.

By Swami Saiexposedananda, at 23 January, 2008 18:23
Dearest...H.H. Swami Saiexposedananda!!!

Man, u are such a fucking sore loser that u actaully sit on this shit wasting ur time on EXPOSING BHAGAWAN SRI SATHYA SAI BABA! HAHAHAHAHA...10 years of devotion and this much shit! Im surprised that ur nastyass hasnt been shot up yet u fucking Goof!!! And yes thats with a capital "G"!!!

By Anonymous, at 24 January, 2008 20:04
Well, judging from the standard of your behaviour, it's good to see that being a devotee of "Bhagawan" Sai Baba has done you so much good.

Maybe I wasn't deserving of his mercy after all. So I will have to become a mean and nasty abusive vindictive person in another lifetime.

By Swami Saiexposedananda, at 26 January, 2008 19:27
If Sai Baba is so 'bad', how come He saved my life on at least 3 occasions and also cured me of incurable asthma, confirmed by an asthma specialist, who at the time was so astonished he asked me what my secret was.

M Barnet

PS A punch in the face for you would not be sufficient as far as I am concerned,although I would be admonished by Baba Himself for thinking this.

By Anonymous, at 29 January, 2008 05:17
Histories show us that majority of the people question and have little faith in Men who claim to have reached a higher spiritual understanding. Whether they claim to be the son of god like Christ, a reincarnation like Krishna or Rama, enlightened like Buddha, a saint like Shiridi Sai Baba or a god man like Sathya Sai Baba, they are viewed with suspicion during their life, and it is only their death and passage of time that truly somehow seems to convince people that they were the real deal. Now all the above mentioned people have performed their share of so called miracles. Of course the older the story, the more exaggerated the feat is and more believable. Nobody knows the truth, they might have all been normal men just like us...men who fooled themselves and the world into believing that they were special...whatever it is..it does not matter. They all said the same things, their message is similar, the message of righteousness, they asked us all to love others, respect all other beings, pray to the higher cosmic power, and if there are a bunch of people today who are ready to believe in these men and are ready to change themselves even a bit for the better, then these so called enlightened men have done their job...and they have done a much better job than you, me and any power welding politician, religious head or business man. The way I see it, most of these high profile spiritualists whether real or not, have done more good than harm, have more positive effect on people than negative. If you want to expose Sathya Sai Baba for being a pedophile or cheating people of their money, and you have great backing evidence, then do so by all means. Looks like you are angry that you wasted 10 years of your life believing in something that you are now convinced wasn’t real and are ready to waste another 10 years venting your anger on this stupid blog. Do your self a favor and stop trying to save people, humans have this internal need for a higher spiritual leader, and if not Sathya Sai Baba, they will go after the next ash manifesting guru that comes along. Take my advice and start a more meaningful positive blog, and see if you can have a positive effect on anybody’s life.

By Anonymous, at 31 January, 2008 06:46
Dear Mr. Barnet, assuming that this is your real name, I'm afraid your question is ridiculous.

I cannot explain why your life was saved by Sai Baba on three occasions because neither you nor he have furnished me with the details of the said accidents. Until either of you let me know the relevant details, I'll have to reserve judgement while retaining my freedom to search for a more rational explanation.

As for your asthma, congratulations on the cure. Your asthma consultant confirmed that your asthma was gone, or that Sai Baba had cured it? You see, if you had thought clearly about what you wanted to say, you'll see why it is ridiculous for me to believe or understand why an asthma consultant would endorse Sai Baba and not resign his career, advocating his complete inefficiency in treating disease and submitting to Sai Baba's power instead.

As for the punch in the face that you would dearly love to give me, I would be more satisfied at heart if you had sad and examined your motives for throwing the punch in the first place. Your devotion to Sai Baba has clearly not taught you much if you still feel the need to engage in a discussion through violence.

Good wishes, Mr. Barnet.

By Swami Saiexposedananda, at 01 February, 2008 01:38
Dear Magneto, I am touched by your concern.

Let me alleviate your grief by informing you that I do indeed have several blogs that discuss much more positive issues, and which I consider far more important that Sai Baba, who I agree is very stupid.

The fact is, the general public have a right to receive information about a fraud in their midst.

By Swami Saiexposedananda, at 01 February, 2008 01:41
To Magneto,

I was a Sai Baba devotee for almost two decades. I understand that you hope to encourage the original poster to engage in more fruitful efforts than bashing Sai Baba. However, I respectfully disagree with your assertion that Sai Baba's only message is one of universal love, and therefore there is little harm done if he is really a trickster.

He has arranged marriages, suggested divorces and breakups, encouraged people to go into certain careers over others, and overall used his powers of persuasion and abused the faith of the people who loved him so that they may do his bidding. I'm not sure what his motives are for all this, though I suspect it is all part of his power trip.

When he gets personal into the lives of individuals, then I strongly argue that there is great harm done. These devotees change the course of their lives for a man who is dishonest with them.

The sexual abuse or assault of even one child or adult is great harm done.

The sudden realization that you've been living under a fog for the past two decades - that has incredible psychological and emotional implications, and cannot be minimized by stating that since he preaches universal values, there is little harm done.

I am normally not vocal about neither my past belief in and experiences with Sai Baba nor my subsequent decision to rid myself of any involvement with him or his organization. I guess you could say I did as you said, just moving on quietly with my life.

But I had to correct your misrepresentation that there is really no harm done. There is great harm done. I live with it everyday and am tired of people making excuses for this man who clearly takes advantage of people and families when they are most vulnerable.

Let his victims speak out - do not attempt to silence their voices. I realize that might not have been your intention, but that is what you are doing nonetheless.

By Anonymous, at 21 February, 2008 19:32
Well, what you are writing has been spoken, written & said hush hush by many gullible Sai Devotees. We have also heard about the Leelas with kids by the Godman & his inner circle which included Dr Bhatia , who is now in New Delhi after having been kicked out from Puttaparthi Hospital.
As a Shirdi Sai Devotee, I feel hurt & sad that the name " Sai" is getting tarnished by such Charlattans.

By Anonymous, at 26 February, 2008 10:48
As for Sai Baba - I think that he is genuinely good. However, of course a lot of people will not be happy with him, as he doesn't always give people what they want. That is the nature of God. Baba devotees on the other hand - can come in three types - one the simple and dumb, two - the alright ones, three - the evil hypocritical ones who think that they have especially chosen by the lord to represent pillars of spirituality. I know a few twisted sai devotees personally. They are real nutcases who think that they are the most generous people in the world and that others can never be as generous as them. They are also always preaching Baba's commandments and also not living up to them. Some people are so twisted - they only worship sai for they're own ego boosts. They like to believe that they have been personally selected to execise dharma and goodness in the world, and that the lord has personally selected them to spread his mightty word. In reality, they struggle and most often fail in practicising good actions or near good actions. This stream of dangerous sai devotees - saichos (psychos) i like to call them are in serious need of psychological help.

By Anonymous, at 18 March, 2008 03:57
Dear H.H.

This is a very unique world in which we are breathing. We are provided with so many different options to pray to in terms of GODS and methodology and get inner strength from whom so ever we believe in. If you are disheartened with Swami in any respect, then there is no need for you to pray to the person called Satya Sai Baba. Pray to and believe in whichever name you like, even to stars, sun or any other forces of nature. God is present everywhere. So instead of wasting whatever time you have on this earth, try and serve life so that it can further survive on this earth a few more years than what scientists predict. Let other people stay with their beliefs. The main purpose is to preserve positive energy in this world as it is being surrounded by more of negative energy.

By Anonymous, at 18 March, 2008 11:32
What a bull-shit is this blog!

By Anonymous, at 06 April, 2008 01:07
I am open minded about this issue. I have one question related to a miracle that is stated to be happening in a house in Mumbai, in a family whom I believe are quite decent and not of deceiving type.

I have seen myself vibhuti on the Sai pictures and "Om" written on the walls and they keep happening.

Is there any explanation you can give for this phenomenon?

By Anonymous, at 07 April, 2008 09:54
Hi Anon.,

I myself have not analysed the matter thoroughly and also have not seen this house, so I don't feel qualified to give proper comment.

However, on first impressions I can only suspect some sort of cheating. Also, if you believe in that sort of thing, these may be instances of psychic projection on the part of devotees. Such things have happened in relation to others gurus/godmen also, and is not necessarily a phenomena restricted to Sai Baba. Interestingly, Sathya Sai Baba himself says that these happenings are not necessarily done by him.

Here are some further articles you may like to read:

Insight into Halagappa Curiosity
Amrit and Vibhuti phenomena NOT unique to Sathya Sai
Robert Priddy's Nectaran Experiences
Halagappa Farce Continues
More On Shirdi Miracles

And lastly, but not least, here is my own experience of how these experiences may not necessarily be deceptive but deceiving nonetheless:

Sai Baba: A Whiff Of Fraud

Hope that helps.

By Swami Saiexposedananda, at 07 April, 2008 23:52
Hi Mr.H H Swami,
I think you are very popular here on this blog... like being an ardent devotee and now an anti-devotee ... must be cool..
I really sympathize with you about how you were made to believe something which is so very false n so idealistic... that poor you couldnt follow... my sympathies... but i would like to ask you a simple Q... why are you writing such articles about which you have NO SOLID EVIDENCE... secondly probably you are just a PSYCHOPATH who just cant take being a total LOSER in ur life... my apologies once again...
sad that you had to spend 10 years in that dreadful place...
probably you wanted to be in a place somewhere like the one you are now in and f*** yourself till you are totally exhausted... and then return to your home where you are the most ideal one... sorry for my language but i think you deserve it ...
the whole irony is that i too am a sai devotee and you must be surprised as to how can sai devotee use such words but my dear friend the point is not this... the point is his teachings are just to improve ones discrimination power (which i am totally using rt now)....
not for morons who are totally desperate and are sick of life because they couldnt do something great in their life and poor sai didnt come and rescue them of their problems.... sad for u... u sick BAS****.... But i must say again I REALLY Sympathize with u....

By Anonymous, at 10 April, 2008 15:26
No worries, "dear friend". You are entitled to your opinions and assumptions.

Just so long as you realise that your opinions and assumptions aren't necessarily true. I wonder what Swami would say about your language though?

By Swami Saiexposedananda, at 11 April, 2008 23:46
Hi H.H Swami Exposedananda,

I am repeating my post here of what I have posted elsewhere in your website, some time ago.

This is regarding a video clipping in YouTube where SaiBaba is taking a chain from his attendant's hand and then waves his hand as if he produced it himself. This was a Doordharshan clip taken in 1992.

What these Sai devotees are going to tell about this?

By Anonymous, at 22 April, 2008 17:34
All i can say my friend, if you have nothing good to tell of a person, don't publish it on the net. It is because of people like you, the good part of a man is diminished. Please don't just think of yourself and believes. Its better believing in god via a guru then don't believing at god at all. I suggest you sit and rethink this whole blog of yours. I am not a BABA devotee i am human, and after reading your blog i feel that you should learn to be human.

God bless you, the mind is a monkey tame it and the thoughts would be pure

By Anonymous, at 27 April, 2008 05:36
If u have any thing wrong in your mind about saibaba keep it to yourself don't hurt others feelings and
post this type of scrap on blogs
and for your ten years of experience of being a devotee doesn't mean u know something about saibaba no one can tell what the Gods ways are Dont think u r brave to post this. Your ten years of sadhana has become waste because of this

By Anonymous, at 02 May, 2008 05:24
The previous anonymous post is a perfect example of the incredibly low amount of spiritual knowledge possessed by Sai Baba devotees. Specifically, I am responding to the point that "your ten years of sadhana has become waste because of this".

This implies that "spiritual progress" is a malleable thing that is subject to increases or decreases due to certain factors. However, this idea is not supported by the Bhagavad-Gita, one of India's best known scriptures and frequently quoted/praised by Sai Baba himself. As follows:

nehAbhikrama-nAzo 'sti
pratyavAyo na vidyate
sv-alpam apy asya dharmasya
trAyate mahato bhayAt

Translation: "In this endeavour there is never any loss or diminution, and even a little advancement on this path can protect one from the greatest danger." (Bhagavad-gita 2.40)

So there you go. Just one little verse from Bhagavad-gita is enough to destroy the fallacious arguments put forward by ignorant Sai Baba devotees that people's spiritual progress can be subject to decrease or "wastage".

This is proof of what I have been saying all along, that Sai Baba's devotees are completely incapable of indulging in a theoretical theological discussion because they simply don't know what they're talking about.

By Swami Saiexposedananda, at 03 May, 2008 18:30
hi guys,

I am no devotee or follow of Sai Baba. I think he has a cool hairdo but that’s it. I would never follow him. but I would like to point out some good he has done for humanity. He has done a lot for poor people in India and inspired the same around the world. wether he is a fake or not, he has brought some good teachings to the world and uplifted the lives of some people. In my country his teachings are a big hit and his followers practice them unconditionally thus putting smiles on kids faces, food in their mouths and cloths on their backs. What have u done your Holiness?? Instead of bringing someone down and pointing out their flaws, use the same energy to help someone in need or do some karma yoga. Do something positive. By you degrading an Indian spiritual figure u doing no good for anyone BUT uplifting the ego of those that think like you. Can u imagine if everyone had the same mind set as you, the whole world with be full of hate because everyone would point out the flaws in each other.

I did not post on you blog to bring you down. I just think you can do much more if you use the time for spiritual practices instead of degrading ones. i see you have sayings from the Gita. I have never read it but I do know one thing. The underlying message is that of unconditional love. Krishna is love personified.

Once again I did not post this comment to start a “word war” with you. You can take what I say seriously or can point out flaws. It’s up to you.

In the words of bob Marley I conclude….
“ one love, one heart …..”

Om namaha shiva

Baps, South Africa

By Anonymous, at 07 May, 2008 15:38
WHOEVER is writing this crap about Sai Baba is going straight to HELL. Don't you dare talk about swami in that way. Do you know what a saint he is and here I am reading things about STUPID IDIOTS and their stories about Sai Baba molesting people. After reading some of this bullshit I'm just full of anger right now. All Sai Baba does is goodness to people. All of his teachings, morals and values are all good things. If you don't want to believe, don't sit here and write BULLSHIT about god. He is not portraying the wrong messages. All he teachings are good and useful for one's life, just like a bible for an example. Sai Baba teaches you to believe in all religions, that everyone is the same, equal. Keep it to yourself if you don't want to believe in him. At least learn to respect others' beliefs. Don't sit here and write BULLSHIT man. I hope you go to hell just because you talk and write about god in that way. Im sorry that he isn't god to you but to many others all over the world he is. If you don't believe in it dont talk shit about him or others or about any other beliefs or religions that others believe in. You don't have the right to. Just because you were a devotee for ten years means NOTHING! You just put it all to WASTE. I've been indulged with Sai Babe ever since I was born. I've grown up in a Sai Family. For 19 years. 19 happy years. 19 proud years to be a sai devotee. My parents, my family, my grand-parents my great-grandparents even have all believed in Sai baba, Shiridi Sai Baba and have all lived a happy life because of their belief in him through good times and bad.
Also, you have NO LIFE to be sitting here writing shit aboout swami instead of writing good things. I hope you get punishment for the rubbish you're speaking.

P.S. From swami's teachings I've always learned to speak softly and lovingly towards others and not to talk bad about them, but there is just one thing I want to say. I hope you go to hell for not throwing swami out of your life but for talking shit about him all over the internet like this. I hope one day you realize who Sai Baba really is and when that day comes, you will REGRET saying all these horrible things about him. Remember he is omnipresent and he sees and knows everything you're doing all the time. But, by then it'll be too late for you.

I'm just curious, how old are you?

You seriously pissed me off!
GO SHOVE A COCONUT UP YOUR ASS you friggen ASSHOLE!

-A Female University Student
-19 years of age
-Canada

By Anonymous, at 10 May, 2008 23:44
I guess everyone is entitled to their opinion.

By Swami Saiexposedananda, at 12 May, 2008 00:06
Hi All, Just see a video clip Sathya Sai Baba Amritha Materialization Mysore posted by Saibabaavatar in youtube. Here Nectar really comes out of a small medallion mysteriously. This does not appear to be a magic.

It is not clear why he does both simple magic tricks and miracles like this.

By Anonymous, at 15 May, 2008 17:48
Om Sri Sai Ram,
realy you have wested 10 presuse years, Swami (Sri Sathya Sai Baba) is lovable and easy to be known, He is realy God on earth. you must looke to him and he look to you.
Om sai Ram
Bahrani Doulat

By Anonymous, at 01 June, 2008 18:27
ladies and gentlemen, look, i don't get it, why are you guys actually fighting on who is right or wrong about Sai Baba? Did Baba force anyone to believe him?whether he is fake or not, go ahead with ur perception. So, make things simple, in life, go ahead with whatever religion u believe, just one thing, We know what is good and bad , so DO the right thing . Its not worth doing the bad thing.

By Anonymous, at 09 June, 2008 05:51
Ok here is what i want to clear.
We are just talking about so Call Sathya Sai Baba, who misguided every one by saying he is the incarnation of Sri Shirdi Sai Baba.

No one can take his (Shirdi Sai Baba) place. And if this man thinks he can dispise people by growing monkey like hair on his head, then I am sorry, this So called Sathya Sai Baba is none other than a plain monkey who is jumping around for nuts.

He's been feeling every one from ages. The one and only Sai Baba is Shirdi Sai Baba, none other than him.

By Anonymous, at 09 June, 2008 07:34
here here !
To all the idiots out there who still wish to bath in sai baba`s perverted truth...
watch out when you bend over to pick up the soap !!

By Anonymous, at 12 June, 2008 11:02
To the following..

-A Female University Student
-19 years of age
-Canada

I thought Sai taught you to be a nice person ?
bad Language..hate..tunnel vision..

Wake up and smell the ROSES,turn the other cheek and believe the truth that is Jesus Christ..

- enlightened new Father
- 35 years of age
- UK

By Anonymous, at 12 June, 2008 11:24
I don't know whether u rtalking abt sathya sai or shai saibaba of shirdi. U shd clearly say that. Have faith in shirdi saibaba, as he is a selfless soul and doesn't want to prove anything to this world. May Sai ram show u the right way.

By Unknown, at 20 June, 2008 10:41
it's all projection.. Sai Baba is just mirroring something that you (or anyone else) doesn't want to look at in themselves. Saying that he is 'exposed' through posting this blog, is merely exposing all that is out of alignment with LOVE. It's not about Sai Baba or anyone else for that matter.. if we look to others to find love we will always believe that they are a 'fraud'.. LOVE must be recognized in the Self before it is seen in another. love and blessings are always within us if we choose to receive them!

By Anonymous, at 26 June, 2008 18:36
Jay sainath, I don't know why you left sai baba but i can tell one thing from all of your writing that you are not patient. what ever you asked for from baba took more time and by then you lost it. Baba is someone who i have been living in almost 10 years and he has full filled all my wishes even though they took some time baba gave my dad a new life he saved my dad if it wasn't for baba i don't know where I would have been. If you listen to baba's songs from your heart you will find this peace in you and if you take a photo of baba and look into his eyes and ask what ever question you need answered you will get an answer back baba will come in your dream to give the answer or as a friend but will show you the right path. so don't try and make things worst for him by calling him fake just because you can't face small problems your self.

Jay sainath

By Anonymous, at 12 July, 2008 19:48
I would be far more interested in hearing about the blogger's philosophical differences with Sai Baba rather than the emotional, irrational outbursts from all sides. I am skeptical of the blogger's reasons for delaying a reasonable discussion. If the blogger is "philosophically inclined", he would realise that this website doesn't invite intellectual debate but is a vehicle for propaganda- these headlines read like those of a mediocre tabloid newspaper and the content barely contains one "irrefutable fact". Before the blogger repeats himself: I must state that I am not interested in a long drawn out "fact" sheet by witnesses or critics in response to my post. (A first year law student would easily tear this fact sheet to pieces just as a scientist would tear apart the assertions of miracles by sai devotees.) What is of some interest is the blogger's knowledge and interpretation of Vedic texts. Perhaps then, he will attract comments from other people who also pursue the path of Jana Yoga and this will help in his own spiritual development. Or are these posts the peak of his intellectual and philosophical endeavour? I am sure it is not.

By Anonymous, at 19 July, 2008 17:11
I was Sathya Sai Devote for some years and I accept thay anyone follow a penis-sucker like this pseudo-swami. (Yes penis-sucker). Anyone can worship this second class magician with all his bad jewerly; even more anyone can adore such a lier like him. But please, accept that some of us, don´t need it. Are you a devote of Sathya Sai? enjoy it and close your eyes, but be careful and put your ass on the wall and watch your pants zipper.

By Anonymous, at 20 July, 2008 22:49
In my country, the USA, any claims of child molestation and/or abuse of any sort are to be investigated to the full extent of the law. If Sathya Sai Baba has nothing to hide and has done nothing wrong, he will allow for the investigations that should be done. When someone has nothing to hide, they will not protest as much as has been done by his camp.
I commend you, H.H., for speaking-out about your experiences. You are not wasting your time by helping people who may be thinking of following this man to consider everything (both good and bad) that's out there about him. As for those people who say that this man has done so much good, so why bring up the bad...Really? Is a village with fresh water worth the boys of that village being subjected to sexual abuse? How much good are you willing to accept in order to turn your back on horrible acts? Furthermore, just reading the violent reactions of so many Sathya Sai Baba followers on here gives me an idea that this is not a holy practice of peace and love. It obviously promotes a sense of power over and condescension towards others. That's not what Jesus taught. Not to mention, Jesus didn't take money from others while he practised. He lived a humble life -yet, I see this man living in abundant wealth. Not cool.
Anyway, H.H. - I give you kudos for trying to expose a fraudster so as to save others from being tricked, even harmed, by him and his followers. Take Care ~ Ness

By CinnamonGirl74, at 28 July, 2008 05:44
Thanks very much for your thoughts, Ness. Much appreciated. :-)

By Swami Saiexposedananda, at 28 July, 2008 18:08
-Sai Ram bro and sis-
We all should be vry shame of this topic going on.........
We knw wat Swami alwayz tells us.......
We trust Sai Baba 100% no doubt at all.........
Why should we think others 2 think as us.........
One day the world will knw the Avathar that time all this people will feel shame at their attitude............
We will wait for the day....
Love ever, Hurt never.......
Sai Ram

By Anonymous, at 29 July, 2008 11:16
Om Jai the RippOff Homo,
May the real supreme onedeal with you. To all of you here is what I have to say..if you like beeing lied to, fondled nad sometimes a wang up the rear, You got the right Baba. So no amount of reson or knowlege would sway you all, you all need the wang up the yang the you'll know. Ladies sorry he not in to you all, he hates what you all have to offer.

Om Om OM so let the rasta Sai bab rot in hell, if there is on.

By Anonymous, at 29 July, 2008 18:35
Hi,I came across this today, and am going to read all your articles.

I am an ardent devotee of Shiridi Sai. SatyaSai, frankly, I dont believe in him as a reincarnation, he could be having some powers, that can be attained by meditation and prayer. that does not make a person God. I treat Shiridi Sai as a guru, one who shows me my salvation point. He never proclaimed himself as God.

Satya Sai, I do have some funny encounters with him, infact, I made him angry, and happy for that.

I have my stories to recall :)

By Kiran, at 02 August, 2008 00:02
Thanks for your comments, Kiran. :)

Yes, please do feel free to read this blog. A lot of articles include information never released in public before.

By Swami Saiexposedananda, at 02 August, 2008 02:32
Hello everybody,
I observed that this disscussion is going on like TV serial for years together.What my question is did any one of u gained any usefull stuff out of this disscussion.What i want to say is Feelings that come out of heart are abstract.If you are looking for physical proof for feelings its a time waste process. Every successful person is criticised. let us try to follow one successful person in our point of interest and become a successful person of our thoughts.we don't know any of the sai baba's personally.We should not be carried away by some other people's thoughts.Listen to discourses they gave and decide yourself whom to follow.It merly depends on saying Birds of same Feather flock together.I hope all of you try to follow the saying HELP EVER HURT NEVER.

SHARVANI

By Anonymous, at 21 August, 2008 19:38
after briefing around viewers comments i can add that believing in baba is not evryones cup of tea.so f..... those who dont bliv baba. i am a devotee of baba n coincident or nt baba has alwaz help me n i owe him a lot

By Anonymous, at 02 September, 2008 15:01
Yes i believe in spiritualism,i do believe if any body has good attempt to teach people some good thoughts.I spend time to listion the good ideas or speach also.
But i know baba failed making some good people out of his speach or thoughts.

Its my personal experience with some sai devotees.
Dont know what they afraied to face the real world,In any place or situation they are not able to adjust them selves.
They want to make there own world with every body saying as "Sai ram"
At end they only feel comfortable with there sai devotee friends only.

they can not accept what others ( Baba or swami's )say.
I dont know anything about sai baba,even i am not a follower of him or enybody but really dont like those devotiees.
My first visit to one sai ashram obviously that was my first darsan to sai baba was terrible .i was misbehaved by the devotees may be i was not there
wearing white dress or i was not replying to them as 'sai ram' to there "sai ram". i was feeling that they they made it as a Code word to know
who is sai baba follower or not and they behave according to that.

I was forced to go there twice during that time. each time i faced the same behaviour. dam sure not to visit any of his ashram's any more.
I suggest those baba devotees Instead of sai baba's kirtan classes go and do some personality development classes.and please listion to others thoughts.
Stop behaving bad to those people who dont come in white colour dresses to kirtan's.

But i like Baba's helping nature for the poor..

By Anonymous, at 04 September, 2008 13:30
I cant believe I am on this site; but by the looks of it, H.H is B/S(ing) about his devotion, and it seems that this is a greater conspiracy against Sai Baba, probably - H.H's devotion towards the Balasai character, jejeje.

Damn, man, you are unable to expound on your reasons for leaving in clarity, were you a dumbass that you lasted TEN YEARS and it took your intellect that long to realise that what you were doing (ie., not in a job, academia or otherwise) that you were misguided.
Man you are a fool....with all the disrespect. A man who spends ten years to decide his faith, frustrated, spoiled, wrathful, and a complete idiot-TO DATE, is spending his entire time now (probably next DECADE, hah) in undermining WHAT HE BELIEVED IN.

YOU LOSER. You definately Must be this wierdo Balasai character alias H.H blogging away....No man of even average intellect takes that long to realise his path....only the ones with less gray matter do- hence you....

By Anonymous, at 17 September, 2008 11:48
Anonymous, my reasons for leaving Sai Baba are posted all over this blog. Too bad you clearly haven't bothered to read through all of it, as you might find out a few interesting things including information never-before-released to the public.

This post is a BRIEF (as stated in the title) explanation for why I left Sai Baba, and I have long said that a fuller explanation is coming as if the articles all over this blog aren't enough. What a pity that I've been so busy with living my life that I haven't updated this blog in over a year, yeah I guess I am a loser.

Read what people are saying.

By Swami Saiexposedananda, at 18 September, 2008 11:46
Mr HH
It is not amazing to know that you have been associated with Sai Baba and yet failed to know him. You could have been associated with him for 1000 years and yet not have known him.

Mr HH your mind is conditioned by the filter of Sanathana Dharma. God is too subtle for all this. Why should he conform to your concept of a "Sanathana Dharmic" God.

God displays omniscience, omnipotence and omniscience. He is infinite possibilities. He will come in a wheelchair! What’s wrong with that yet anyone who comes in wheelchair is not God!

You cannot know God from the Head. You need to know from the Heart. Spiritual evolution and liberation is all about the journey between Head to the Heart. The distance is so short but the journey can be ever so long !!!
Mr HH do not seek God with arrogance, pride and ego of all your knowledge about Sanathana dharma or any other knowledge. What do we or can we as humans know- Nothing
Please approach GOD with all the humility and respect you can give and he will reveal himself in a form that is capable of being beheld by you- wheelchair or no wheelchair!!
Good Luck with your effort in seeking God

By Anonymous, at 18 September, 2008 13:51
Anonymous, you have got to be kidding.

"Mr HH It is not amazing to know that you have been associated with Sai Baba and yet failed to know him. You could have been associated with him for 1000 years and yet not have known him."

Why's that? Sai Baba is nothing special. It may be your belief that he is God and thus "unknowable" but it isn't mine. I'm afraid I don't really care to know Sai Baba, whether for 10 years or 1000 years.

"Mr HH your mind is conditioned by the filter of Sanathana Dharma. God is too subtle for all this. Why should he conform to your concept of a 'Sanathana Dharmic' God."

You have got to be kidding here. Sanathana Dharma is what Sai Baba has been talking about since 1958, saying that it is his mission to re-establish it. Read a fuller article about it. It isn't a question of "my concept", but about Sai Baba's concept of Sanathana Dharma and how he doesn't fulfil his own criteria.

"God displays omniscience, omnipotence and omniscience. He is infinite possibilities."

You quoted omniscience twice. Here, let me help you, you forgot 'omnipresence'.

"He will come in a wheelchair! What’s wrong with that yet anyone who comes in wheelchair is not God!"

Don't be so ridiculous. Why would God appear as a dribbling, drooling retard? According to your logic, he certainly can do so, but my question is why would he choose to do that when he can easily come in a form that is 'supermost'?

The answer is easy: Sai Baba is a cheap god for cheap devotees who lack the discrimination to think critically about all of these things, and have also lost touch with reality. Don't get me wrong, his devotees are not all bad, but they clearly haven't thought this through very well.

"You cannot know God from the Head. You need to know from the Heart. Spiritual evolution and liberation is all about the journey between Head to the Heart. The distance is so short but the journey can be ever so long !!!"

Very wise, but this is just a platitude. The fact is that you need a certain amount of theory before you can engage in practice, otherwise how will you progress?

If you want to travel somewhere, you have to know a little bit about the method of getting there, how to drive a car or use public transport, and also enough about your destination so that you will recognise it when you arrive. Your platitude is untenable.

As a wise teacher once said: "Religion without philosophy is simply sentiment and philosophy without religion is mental speculation." Take good note.

"Mr HH do not seek God with arrogance, pride and ego of all your knowledge about Sanathana dharma or any other knowledge. What do we or can we as humans know- Nothing
Please approach GOD with all the humility and respect you can give and he will reveal himself in a form that is capable of being beheld by you- wheelchair or no wheelchair!!
Good Luck with your effort in seeking God"

Thank you.

By Swami Saiexposedananda, at 18 September, 2008 21:24
Mr HH

“I'm afraid I don't really care to know Sai Baba, whether for 10 years or 1000 years”

By the same token why should Saibaba care to reveal himself to you.

Mr HH You have a concept of God. God does not conform to it. Therefore you conclude He (Sai baba or otherwise) is not God- There is nothing wrong with the conclusion.

SaiBaba has defined certain concepts or principles on Sanathana Dharma. He does not conform to those concepts or principles- Therefore you conclude Sai Baba does not even conform to his own definitions of Sanathana Dharma. One who does not conform to his own definitions of God cannot be God. There is nothing wrong with this conclusion either

Why should God conform to your concept of God. No matter how you argue logically and intellectually, Why should God need to prove to you that he is God? There may be no need at all.

God created you and hid himself from you. Why should he reveal himself to you just because you want Him to. Why should He reveal Himself to you just because you feel that you are correct in your understanding of God. You could be incorrect in your understanding. Why should He reveal Himself even if your understanding is correct? It is His wish. The universe is His game and He may chose to set the rules of the game the way He deems it right

No matter how much you try, without the Grace of God, you can never understand Him.

He may come as a beggar, as a charlatan, in a parachute, in a wheelchair!!, why should He care what you think of him. He has chosen that form merely to hide himself from you.

Mr HH, the point I am trying to make is this. If you are a true seeker of God you will be prepared to accept God in any way he presents himself you. He sets the rules of the acceptance not you, please understand this. Do not ask me what the rules are. It varies person to person, situation to situation, time to time, for no two persons, situations time are alike

True seekers of God have a initimate relationship that cannot be comprehended by non seekers. God and his devotee may have an excellent relationship but to the outside world, it may seem as though it is foolish or blind relationship

Approach Him with love, humility and all the values that flow from the Heart, He will present Himself in a manner that is “supermost” to you. He will prove his omniscience, omnipresence etc. to you. And once he has proven that to you, believe you will not care what the world thinks

What is mundane to you could be "supermost" for another. For me a true vision of God , even if is a dribbling, drooling retard form of God is "supermost"!!

Good Luck Mr HH

By Anonymous, at 21 September, 2008 20:26
I have been busy, sorry, I will respond soon.

By Swami Saiexposedananda, at 23 September, 2008 13:04
Here is my reply:

"By the same token why should Saibaba care to reveal himself to you."

This is a silly argument, I'm afraid to say. According to Sai Baba's own words, he is an avatar who has descended in the fullness of God in order to save the world from the brink of destruction. Part of that mission involves publicising the fact, as he has been so doing and announcing in his discourses for several decades already. Therefore your argument is invalid; it isn't a question of revealing himself to me, but to everyone, which is what he has said he will do.

If you meant that he might not care to reveal his so-called divinity to me, this also contradicts the avataric notion mentioned above. It is undeniable that Sai Baba has been announcing his divinity for many years, what to speak of "revealing" it.

"Mr HH You have a concept of God. God does not conform to it. Therefore you conclude He (Sai baba or otherwise) is not God- There is nothing wrong with the conclusion."

Please discard your notion about my having a "notion" of God. Those of us who have spent time studying the various scriptures have an intimate knowledge of who God is, and furthermore, this argument is also invalid. Sai Baba himself says that he answers to all names and forms. By that token, he should conform to my "concept" of God whatever it may be.

"SaiBaba has defined certain concepts or principles on Sanathana Dharma. He does not conform to those concepts or principles- Therefore you conclude Sai Baba does not even conform to his own definitions of Sanathana Dharma."

Let's be clear: I don't believe that Sai Baba is God, therefore I don't believe that he is responsible for elucidating any principles of SD, as that was done by God Himself.

Again your argument is invalid. While it is true that God is above and beyond all rules and regulations and is not bound by them, He is still the most perfect observer of all those rules. There would be no meaning to calling Him "Dharmadhyaksa" or "Dharmanarayan" otherwise. Do you doubt me still? Check out Bhagavad Gita Chapter 3 verses 22-24.

"One who does not conform to his own definitions of God cannot be God. There is nothing wrong with this conclusion either

Why should God conform to your concept of God. No matter how you argue logically and intellectually, Why should God need to prove to you that he is God? There may be no need at all."

Again an invalid argument. I've discussed above that Sai Baba's public declarations of godhood is a means of announcing himself. It stands to reason that a lot of people may be sceptical about his claim and ask him to prove it. A reasonable proposal, one might think? Therefore Sai Baba is bound to prove his claim, otherwise who will believe him?

"God created you and hid himself from you."

Bit odd, that, don't you think?

"Why should he reveal himself to you just because you want Him to. Why should He reveal Himself to you just because you feel that you are correct in your understanding of God. You could be incorrect in your understanding."

Yes, I could be incorrect of course. I haven't seen any reason or evidence of why I could be incorrect though. If you have any, please let me know of it.

"Why should He reveal Himself even if your understanding is correct? It is His wish. The universe is His game and He may chose to set the rules of the game the way He deems it right"

He already has. See Bhagavad Gita 9.10. And considering those Gita verses I quoted earlier, it stands to reason that once God sets up the game, He plays by His own rules.

I'm not even sure what we are talking about here or where you are going with this. Are we discussing Sai Baba or God? I know you think Sai Baba is God, but can we keep the two issues clear?

"No matter how much you try, without the Grace of God, you can never understand Him."
No argument there. Did I ever contradict this anywhere?

"He may come as a beggar, as a charlatan, in a parachute, in a wheelchair!!, why should He care what you think of him. He has chosen that form merely to hide himself from you."

I'm sorry, but this is plainly ridiculous. You are tying to use an example of physical disability as an instance of "divine will" or some other kind of leela. I know that a lot of devotees think the same way that you do, in that Sai Baba is suffering this "wheelchair leela" either as a leela or because he is taking on some dear devotee's suffering on himself.

Would you agree, even if Sai Baba himself specifically said that he was NOT taking on someone's suffering, but it is in fact his own medical problem? Hard as it may be to believe, he did say that. Therefore I fail to see how this is an instance of God's appearing in a wheelchair "because he might want to". He fell down and fractured his hip on several occasions and now he is confined to a wheelchair. It's as simple as that. Please do not fudge the issue by talking of "leela" and other things.

"Mr HH, the point I am trying to make is this. If you are a true seeker of God you will be prepared to accept God in any way he presents himself you. He sets the rules of the acceptance not you, please understand this. Do not ask me what the rules are."

My dear Sir, you are wrong. While your words are theoretically true, your application of them is sorely incorrect.

Earlier you were talking of revelation. Might I ask you, how exactly are we to recognise God if he appears in front of us? I will tell you: There are certain things one should know about God so that one can easily verify if he is who he says he is. Sai Baba fails those signs, it's as simple as that.

"What is mundane to you could be 'supermost' for another. For me a true vision of God , even if is a dribbling, drooling retard form of God is 'supermost'!!"

You just highlighted once again that recognition of God is a subjective thing. In case you did not get it from my earlier comments, my angle is that there are certain ways of objectively verifying divinity. But in this last comment, you have perfectly exampled the fact that recognition and realisation of God is a subjective experience.

If you really think that Sai Baba is God as a dribbling and drooling retard, and this is your realisation, that says more about you than it does about me Im sorry to say.

"Good Luck Mr HH"

And to you too.

By Swami Saiexposedananda, at 24 September, 2008 21:47
Sai Ram, Ram Ram Sita Ram

To the devotees of sai baba,I apologize on behalf of this individual who does not know better, "we can only pray for such individuals". Please do not let any illiterate body discourage you from your beliefs. And if you ever come accross sites or blogs as such please disregard them, As you know sai baba will not want you to comsume irrelevent information.
You know in your hearts, mind and body what is genuine.
To the writer of this blog... get a life...
And i know after illustratng this you know Sai Baba will forgive you... may god be with you
Peace, LOVE and God's blessings

By Anonymous, at 25 September, 2008 00:34
It's kinda funny how you call me illiterate when you can't even spell properly.

Way to answer my points, though. ;-)

By Swami Saiexposedananda, at 25 September, 2008 02:48
Hi HH,

I am LakshmiNarasimhan from India, I have not gone thru' your site in full, but wanted to check, whether you were given an interview by Swamy? How close were you with him? When did you decide to call it quits? & why?
BTW, what you are talking about now, is your belief or your personal experience?
If all this is primary info., then I'll be all ears. Looking forward to hear from you.

By Anonymous, at 26 September, 2008 19:00
wow. still going this debate?
I'm undecided?Reading little bits of Hinduism as a culture I find more enlightening, but HH, it kinda hurt my heart to read your comments about the patheticness of his current state? Not because I am a swami follower or whatever, but because its sad when someone has deceived and hurt you so much that even their patheticness does not in some way soften your heart as a human being?Then again that blog was a while ago.I remember being so angry at times of deception that it seemed the only thing that could bring my heart peace was to see those who wronged me suffering also. On the one occasion that has so far happened (Im 27) it was not the joy I thought it would be somehow.If truly this man is a deceiver, then doubtless his fate will be more miserable than those who had cause to suffer. there is nothing comforting about dying alone, and one can not deceive themselves at the end of life, no matter who else may be taken in. that is true loneliness. Lucky you, I say, to have the peace of truth in your life.
Be well.

By Anonymous, at 27 September, 2008 06:53
Hi Lakshminarasimhan,

Yes, I have had two interviews with Sai Baba in 1993. I made the decision to leave him around 2001, after 10 years of unwavering devotion.

I write on this blog a mixture of personal experiences and researches that I've found. For example, I've found out serious inconsistencies about his claim to be the reincarnation of Shirdi Sai Baba, and also about his general claims to godhood.

By Swami Saiexposedananda, at 28 September, 2008 16:26
Sai Ram Mr HH

You can be a follower of Sanathana Dharma even by being an atheist.

For a Sai Baba follower, you are a child of Sai Baba even if you are a non believer. You are entitled to same grace, love and blessings of the lord as a beliver and a follower is entitled to.

We pray that you get abundant grace, love and blessings of your chosen God.

Samastha Loka sukhino bhavanthu

Jai Sai Ram

By Anonymous, at 09 October, 2008 12:33
Let us all be truthful to one ALMIGHTY GOD alone.
Mem will remain men !
Holy people are servants of ALMIGHTY GOD!
No human can be worshipped.
All Hindu Bedas discard idol worship or bowing to Sun, Moon stars ,Monekeys & Snakes.
So let us only bow down to one ALMIGHTY GOD.
Konw your own religion watch Peace TV India.
Thank you.

By Anonymous, at 19 October, 2008 12:22
God or no God, people need to question what/who they are following. I was a student at Satya Sai Baba's institution for 8 long years. I was a kid then and left after my 10th standard (15 years of age). I believe the schooling system at Sai Baba's place is the worst thing to put a child thru. It isn't a co-ed system, hence boys and girls grow up separately, thus leading to poor self-esteem when they mingle at a later time in life. The teachers are some very frustrated people (bachelors and widows mostly) who beat children up, threaten them with dire consequences, make them write apology letters for the smallest of offenses (I held the personal record in my batch for writing over 50 apology letters in a single year; for reasons such as taking sugar from the mess kitchen, teasing batchmates, and the other behaviours any normal kid would indulge in), etc. These letters were used to blackmail the kids as every now and then the teacher would threaten the child by suggesting that the letter be mailed to his parents. Horrendous environment for any child. Plenty of homosexuals in the place since after puberty the kids had no access to photographs of women (we were told sex is sinful). This repression led to boys indulging with each other. Homosexuality was severely frowned upon and many boys were expelled. The children were very confused about what they should be doing with their sexual energy that nature meant to be a part of any growing person.

Sai Baba's sexual abuse stories were rampant then. One of my classmates (at the age of 12; 7th standard) narrated how Baba touched his genitals. The classmate was then brutally bashed by our female principal (she was a widow from Kashmir or someplace). Kids were expected to be servile and domestication for Baba's future workforce was in full swing here. Many of my batchmates regret being a part of that schooling system.

My parents are still devotees of Sai Baba. I began to question my faith when my life went topsy turvy. I wondered, with a brain and common sense, what was I doing following some Guru or God? Why couldn't I figure out the solutions for my own problems and tackle them head on? It was then I began to change my outlook and soon I gained perspective. I have stopped following Sai baba or any such god and my life has only gotten better.

By Anonymous, at 14 November, 2008 17:29
Thank you for your heartfelt story anon. Would you like to keep in contact? If so, please email me at:

saibabaexposed AT gmail DOT com

(Replace the capital letters with the '@' and '.' sign respectively, obviously.)

By Swami Saiexposedananda, at 14 November, 2008 22:53
TRY ONE TIMES A LIFE TIME FOR THE RIGHT THINGS FOR YOUR REALL HAPPINESS .
God is ONE.And he does no need to be in the world because he is all around gurus and all others are just using people hope's soul's. ıf you need to feel God, God is in You. And no need other one to remind him.In India everybody is God or Saint or someother holly stuff.Becaus Everybody very poor in India. And Clever Poor's find a way to be a famous and a rich men.And they make theirself Guru or God's hand in the earth. Look at the world why so many religion only in Indi? Why so many saint ?I think because people are poor and uneducated and they need something to believe and then this clever people comes around and they make thirself God's representative and Guru.INDIANS PLEASE WAKE UP.Please check 4 holly religion. Christians made alll Asian adn african people Slave with Papa hands and they dont like Jews.Jews dont like all the others.Jews thinks they are very special and the others are lowerden Jews.Let's go to the Islam.Muslims are Arabs Turks and Paki's some Indi's Afgan's etc.. And Turks canceled the Halife systme ( cos it became like Pope) and Islam is open for everyone and it is a brain religion.Just spend some time to read Qur'an.And You will see diffrencies.And respecst for the others and very clean very positive and very equal .Just try.Dont go and make used yourselves.

By Anonymous, at 20 November, 2008 18:37
Yet there are men who take (for worship) others besides The GOD, as equal (with GOD): They love them as they should love GOD. But those of Faith are overflowing in their love for GOD. If only the unrighteous could see, behold, they would see the penalty: that to GOD belongs all power, and GOD will strongly enforce the penalty.
On the day) when those who were followed disown those who followed (them), and they behold the doom, and all their aims collapse with them.
And those who were but followers will say: If a return were possible for us, we would disown them even as they have disowned us. Thus will GOD show them their own deeds as anguish for them, and they will not emerge from the Fire.
And when it is said unto them: Follow that which GOD hath revealed, they say: We follow that wherein we found our fathers. What! Even though their fathers were wholly unintelligent and had no guidance?
The parable of those who reject Faith is as if one were to shout Like a goat-herd, to things that listen to nothing but calls and cries: Deaf, dumb, and blind, they are void of wisdom.
Say thou (O Muhummed to the people): "I am but a man like you: it is revealed to me by inspiration, that your God is One God: so stand true to Him, and ask for His forgiveness". And woe to those who join gods with God. (HOLY QURAN 41:6)

By Unknown, at 25 November, 2008 12:22
MR H.H.

i was just blogwalking, and i found this very interesting blog.

i am totally agree w/ you. i don't know what is god's appearance, but i know very well what isn't. and this guy, is just a liar. not more, not less. and not god.

but, i think you should let ppl believe what they want, and us believe what we want. cos i think exposing the 'weakness' of 'somebody' is just a little bit rude, especially for his believer.

and one thing: in the end, every lies will be exposed - whether you like it or not.

great blog, mr HH. please keep on going.
and sorry for my bad english. :)

regards,
romanticvampire.

By odi, at 08 December, 2008 05:36
Thanks for your comments, romanticvampire! :)

By Swami Saiexposedananda, at 08 December, 2008 23:03
I am not really sure if we can question the authority of god mate.. But ur mind is ur devotion. And your hard work your fruit thats all i can say. And if satya sai is wrong or right depeends on peoples ideologies.

By Anonymous, at 16 December, 2008 11:16
I am not sure if Sai Baba has claimed he is God/incarnation, but if he has, then he is fool number 1 and a big fraud. The Vedic scriptures reveal that God is endowed with 6 qualities in full: He is full in beauty,strength,wealth,knowledge,fame and renunciation and there is no one who exceeds Him in any of these qualities. This is the acid test to rule out any impersonators and bogus incarnations. I saw Sai baba's cheap trick on you tube when he was faking the magical appearance of a chain...it was pathetic! Believing his version of spirituality is a disgrace on any one's intellect except for those weak minded indian and foreign followers who wouldnt know the truth even if it hit them in their face.
Read the Bhagavad Gita As it is with a humble mind and God will reveal himself from within.
Om namo Bhagavathe Vasudevaya

By Anonymous, at 28 December, 2008 23:18
Why ppl can't see that we need no God to live well and be good and nice?
I've never been involved in any religion, I've never considered seriously the option to follow the word of any prophet or god...
Tho I am not an assassin, a bad person, I made my mistake and then tried to correct them. I help ppl, I love ppl, I am a positive person.
How is that possible if these prophets and gods say that the only way to live in the right way is to follow the path they show us?
Maybe I am a prophet or avatar myself? ;-)
Leave all these useless lies and open your eyes. Learn to live with your forces and make your own reasoning about life, world and universe.
I don't mean to offend anyone, I respect the ideas and believes of everyone but I can't help to think that you ppl that NEED to believe are delusional.
The first impuls of humans is to think that there is something bigger, higher and more powerful than humans themselves that can help them, explain them the meaning of life and such things. That's useless.
I believe there is some "energy" that goes beyond our knowledge and understanding but there is no god. We are here to live our lives as any other organic creature in the universe. Just that. Nothing more.

By Anonymous, at 06 January, 2009 18:45
Hi H.H Swami Saiexposedananda,

You know it’s strange that you would state that Sai Baba's teachings do not match with the Vedas and Puranas. But from what I have found out from Sathya Sai Speaks there are many teachings that conform to the teachings under Advaita. Yes I agree that there have been inconsistencies, but what is your purpose in reviewing the teachings against the Vedas? Are you conducting some sort of audit?!! You had stated that you left because of the inconsistencies. But truly speaking how do you know whether the Vedas and other scriptures are true? I mean we know that the Vedas were originally never written down and were passed down from Guru to disciple verbally.

You may remember the game Chinese whispers where a sentence is whispered from one to another and after a set number of people the original sentence has changed to some thing very different from what it was originally. So in something as vast and complex as the Vedas how does one know if many in the line of getting verbal instruction really understood it for what the teachings was to truly signify?

I admit that I was one who used to criticize Gurus who were put up on a pedestal and concentrated on pure Advaitic teachers like Ramana Maharishi, Nisargadatta, Shankara, Atmananda and others. But then guess what. I then started reading the teachings of these gurus being criticized and what I found was that they all taught Advaita Vedanta and that was more prominent in the early teachings of them. You know most people just can not get to even consider the teachings of Advaita Vedanta. Because to even consider it would mean that they have to acknowledge that the idea of a self is an illusion and that scares most people.

So most people would pretend not to hear the teaching and concentrate on worshipping the source of the teaching. So what can these gurus do? They give the devotees what they want. All the mumbo jumbo that they can handle. Do you know that most Buddhists believe that enlightenment was only for the Buddha? Even though the Buddha advocated the practice of vippasana, just how many Buddhist practice vippasnana? Not a lot and most Buddhist are happy involved in rituals of prayers and incense and praying to the Buddha for solutions to their problems. How ironic!!

It is said that the problem is not finding a true guru. The problem is finding a true disciple. A true disciple will eventually preserve to understand the teachings and following the instructions. But most people are happy to just do the easy thing- prayer and glorify the guru. In their eagerness to promote their Guru or symbol of Spirituality people many times distort the truth by adding stories of miracles and superhuman feats. In spite of all this the teachings still remain.

A central theme in Advaita Vedanta and Buddhism is “Neti Neti”- Not this, Not that. So if one were to do that all concepts would have to be dropped including God, religion and teachings. Yes even the teachings. Because even teachings are still concepts they have to be ultimately dropped.

What I am saying is that is it really important to not have inconsistencies in Sai Baba’s teachings as compared to scriptures? Because ultimately even the teachings have to be dropped.
A Man with a Big Mouth.

By Anonymous, at 12 January, 2009 13:18
Hi H.H,

Hmmm. What happen to my post? Decided to delete it??
A Man with a Big Mouth

By Anonymous, at 13 January, 2009 13:38
As you can see, Man With A Big Mouth, your post has been published. Someone has to be pretty abusive to get their comments rejected, so thankfully your comment doesn't fall into that category. Also, I administer this blog in my free time. Now onto your comments...

"You know it’s strange that you would state that Sai Baba's teachings do not match with the Vedas and Puranas. But from what I have found out from Sathya Sai Speaks there are many teachings that conform to the teachings under Advaita. Yes I agree that there have been inconsistencies, but what is your purpose in reviewing the teachings against the Vedas? Are you conducting some sort of audit?!! You had stated that you left because of the inconsistencies. But truly speaking how do you know whether the Vedas and other scriptures are true? I mean we know that the Vedas were originally never written down and were passed down from Guru to disciple verbally."

My intention in saying that the teachings of Sai Baba do not conform to that of the Vedic/scriptural tradition is in direct relation to his own many statements that all he is doing is presenting the message of the Vedas. By highlighting what the Vedic scriptures actually do say versus what he actually says, it is clear that there are contradictions and inconsistencies.

It is true that the scriptures have a long oral tradition (that is why the Vedas and Upanishads are known as 'shruti'). If you happen to be a theist, then it is matter of faith to reckon that the scriptures were finally written down by Veda Vyasa for posterity. In short, what is written is what we have, and when Sai Baba says that his teachings are in line with them when they are not, then we have a problem.

As far as Advaita is concerned, Advaita is merely an interpretation.

I then started reading the teachings of these gurus being criticized and what I found was that they all taught Advaita Vedanta and that was more prominent in the early teachings of them. You know most people just can not get to even consider the teachings of Advaita Vedanta. Because to even consider it would mean that they have to acknowledge that the idea of a self is an illusion and that scares most people.

As I said above, Advaita is one interpretation, and it is one that gurus such as Ramana, Nisargadatta et al. have chosen to favour. There are several other interpretations out there too, most notably the ones propounded by Sri Ramanujacharya and Sri Madhvacharya, and which hold within then a satisfactory standard of internal consistency and philosophical rigorousness.

[snip]

What I am saying is that is it really important to not have inconsistencies in Sai Baba’s teachings as compared to scriptures? Because ultimately even the teachings have to be dropped.

This comment is true as pertains to the spiritual development of the individual, but that is not what I am discussing. The path one follows has to have some consistency, and the Advaitic path that advocates the 'dropping' of certain components along the way is, I think, a highly risky method. One cannot be told initially that 2 + 2 = 4, and then at a 'higher' level be informed that 2 + 2 = 22.

So in this way, when Sai Baba presents himself as teaching the "age old shastras" as if his teachings were perfectly in line with them, and when the slightest effort at research on the part of the student reveals that they diverge in a number of ways, I don't think that makes him look like a very 'safe' guru to follow. Do you?

By Swami Saiexposedananda, at 17 January, 2009 00:00
Hi H.H,
I apologize for the quip on not posting my comment. Thanks. Now on to your comments. IF Advaita is just an interpretation of the Shastras then cannot Sai Baba’s rendition of the Shastras be “his interpretation”? If your critique of Sai Baba is just only the irreconcilable differences between “your” interpretations against “his” interpretations, then it seems that there is more than that that would prompt you to start a blog “exposing” Sai Baba. You have stated that you happen to be philosophically inclined and have been brought up and studied the shastras. Going by that logic you would have noticed the discrepancies from day one rather than coming to that conclusion after 10 years.
So it seems your quip with Sai Baba is more than just the differences. May I ask why did you start following Sai Baba in the first place? Because if it was just to learn more of the Shastras and vedic scriptures then I am sure there would definitely be a better way to do that then to be his devotee for 10 years spending time on his talks. You could have just bought and poured over the books or even sign up to a school that just does that.
Following a Guru, even if he claims to be God incarnate, requires a belief and motive other than just teachings. I find that the organizations that are built around the Gurus are more responsible for most of the exaggerations and divine claims basically to go on the lines of my God or Guru is better than yours. It becomes more of claiming mine is bigger than yours mentaility. I cannot believe that the devotees are just innocent victims. In an organization as large as the one around Sai Baba people can get quite loony. The words of Nietzsche come to mind “Insanity in individuals is rare- but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule”. You get the picture when I use the words “mob mentality” right?
People can create a grudge for the flimsiest reasons. Maybe it’s a prayer for winning the lottery unfulfilled. That can translate to hatred to the Guru and people can be quite imaginative in making up stories to bolster their claims of hate or disappointment. We see it everyday life when dealing with relatives or other employees at work. It can be very easy against the Guru, because the Guru will not sue them or take to court for slander.
I am not saying that what I am writing is the gospel truth and the confessions of abuse are all untrue, because I have no way of determining the legitimacy of the claims. Nor can I determine the falsity of the claims. So at best they can be just opinions. And from what you said, everything can be interpreted to suit each person.

A Man with a Big Mouth

By Anonymous, at 18 January, 2009 13:01
Deviating from the discussion or opinions on Sai baba, I note your opinion on the aspects of Advaita being an interpretation. Yes, Ramanujacharya and Madhvacharya have scribed their reservations in accepting the capacity to hold against their logical draw able conclusions from the interpretations by Shankara. But by and large the reservations held in opposition to Shankara are only in relation to each ascribed understanding. Never the less many important works from India correspond with the main premises of the interpretation of Shankara. Yoga Vasistha, Ashtavakra Gita, Avadhut Gita are some the works that are held in high regard in spirituality. He works all have the same premise.

But if we move forward in time to include findings in science and more notably in quantum physics, a lot of confirmable findings which are established in the scientific community confirms the Advaitic views of Shankara. Physicists like David Bohm is one that have made substantial contributions to Quantum physics and in going through the material there is a definite correlation to the work of Shankara. In fact if you go through the philosophy over the last 150 years and read the works of great western thinkers and philosophers like Jacques Derrida, Ludwig Wittgenstein, Alan Watts, Alfred Korzybski it becomes clear that they also reflected the view that Shankara had. If you read the work of Alfred Korzybski- Science and Sanity it is quite interesting the way the aspects of reality and our experiences of the same match with the Advaitic view. Post modernism works also present an uncanny similarity to the Advaitic views of Shankara. Note that these were primarily western philosophers but the premise is unmistakable.

Yes interpretations can hold within standard of internal consistency and philosophical rigorousness which is more pronounced on a personal level. But corroboration with other works even out side the scope of influence gives more credence to the works of Shankara, Ramana, Nisargadatta, Jnaneshwar and others.

I find it interesting that you are attempting to explain your reservations against Advaitic views by using an example of 2+2=4 and 2+2=22. This like trying to maintain that Newtonian physics still holds on the particle level and quantum theory is inadmissible.

Maybe this is reflected in your view point on Sai Baba….just a thought.

Man with a Big Mouth

By Anonymous, at 20 January, 2009 10:19
Hi, I appreciate your thirst for truth and questioning the authenticity of certain humans/ gurus and the self-proclaimed gods! Like SAI and others................

One should realize the Supreme power who had delivered Vedas and Sanaathana dharma to Us. Realize the GOD in self! If we do, then world becomes more beautiful.
Love the humanity without boundaries of nationality/ religion/ caste/ creed/ color etc etc.

“Value the Humanity!” “Follow Sanaathana dharma/ Vedas!” and “Let the fools live their life questioning and finding the supreme power”.

These are the best/basic principles and no preaching or speeches can change or contradict these ethics if they do, then whoever he of she is…… they are disqualified and invalid in their own identity.

By Anonymous, at 24 January, 2009 06:28
What all you people need to learn is how to spell and write english correctly.

By Anonymous, at 28 January, 2009 02:06
IF Advaita is just an interpretation of the Shastras then cannot Sai Baba’s rendition of the Shastras be “his interpretation”? If your critique of Sai Baba is just only the irreconcilable differences between “your” interpretations against “his” interpretations, then it seems that there is more than that that would prompt you to start a blog “exposing” Sai Baba.

This is a good point, and the point of Sai Baba's own interpretations is well-made and appreciated. If Sai Baba had stated all along that he was doing things according to his own interpretation then that would be fine, I suppose. However, the nature of criticism (in the sense of thinking critically, not criticising) is to engage in proper evaluation. Sai Baba himself has made various statements such as:

"My main task is the reestablishment of the Vedas and Sastras (spiritual scriptures), and revealing the knowledge about them to all people ... I have come to instruct all in the essence of the Vedas, to shower on all this precious gift, to protect the ancient wisdom (sanathana dharma) and preserve it."

He talks as if he intimately familiar with the Vedas and Shastras and thus qualified to teach other people. And when someone who knows their stuff comes along and compares SB's teachings with what the scriptures actually say, differences can be seen. In other words, Sai Baba says that his teachings are Vedic but the reality is that it is not. It is an interpretation, a type of neo-Advaita.

You have stated that you happen to be philosophically inclined and have been brought up and studied the shastras. Going by that logic you would have noticed the discrepancies from day one rather than coming to that conclusion after 10 years. So it seems your quip with Sai Baba is more than just the differences. May I ask why did you start following Sai Baba in the first place? Because if it was just to learn more of the Shastras and vedic scriptures then I am sure there would definitely be a better way to do that then to be his devotee for 10 years spending time on his talks. You could have just bought and poured over the books or even sign up to a school that just does that.

Well, there is a limit to the knowledge one has as a child, despite being surrounded by books and scriptures. I learnt plenty of things from Sai Baba too, as I suppose every other devotee would. It is only when one undertakes a deep examination of these things that one can uncover the origins behind the teachings and figure out where they actually come from, and the results can certainly be very surprising.

As for why did I become his devotee, I'm sure you are familiar with the milieu and predilections of the Indian community. Many people follow some guru or other; Sai Baba, Ramana, Ramakrishna, Swami Narayan, Hare Krishna, or even a personal family guru. There is nothing mysterious or sinister about it; I came in touch with Sai Baba devotees who invited us along to their satsangs and we gradually fell into it.

To couple this point with the standard of his teachings, the greatest irony comes from Sai Baba himself. As you probably know, Sai Baba claims to be God Incarnate, an avatar, a claim that is taken very seriously by his devotees. In the discourse (link above) that I quoted from, there is another choice line:

"Cynics carp without knowledge. If they learn the Sastras or scriptures, or if they cultivate direct experience, they can understand me."

How ironic it is that after I decided to study the scriptures I understood him very well, as not God. And this is the nature of education and knowledge; you learn a few things. When you then apply what you have learnt and find that things aren't as you thought they were, you need to question the origin of your sources. So, of course, to couple Sai Baba's teachings with his own claims of divinity, if Sai Baba isn't divine then how can his teachings reflect the "original truth" of the scriptures when they are but an interpretation?

I cannot believe that the devotees are just innocent victims. In an organization as large as the one around Sai Baba people can get quite loony ...
I am not saying that what I am writing is the gospel truth and the confessions of abuse are all untrue, because I have no way of determining the legitimacy of the claims. Nor can I determine the falsity of the claims. So at best they can be just opinions. And from what you said, everything can be interpreted to suit each person.

Your point is appreciated. It is too bad that Sai devotees aren't even organised enough to even have a mob mentality.

It is interesting that you say you find it hard to believe Sai devotees are innocent victims. My own feeling is because, despite appearances and pretentious claims, they aren't very well read in scriptures or philosophy which is why they fall for Sai Baba's feelgood "one size fits all" platitudes. Of course if we were to analyze these things deeply we may uncover other motivations such as the need to belong to a group, a liking for charismatic personalities that fosters and strengthens group links, a sense of exclusivity, and other things. But I genuinely think the root of it all is their scriptural/philosophical illiteracy. If they had a good grasp of the knowledge and apply it to Sai Baba and/or his teachings instead of trying to look at the world through Sai Baba's spectacles, they might discover a few interesting things.

By Swami Saiexposedananda, at 31 January, 2009 20:54
As for science, I agree with your observations in general. However, I don't share the view that science and religion will unite at some point. They are mutually exclusive fields as far as I can see.

By Swami Saiexposedananda, at 31 January, 2009 21:00
My father, JADUGAR ANAND, was the Vice-President of Neo-Sannyas International and a very promising magician in those days. Being from Jabalpur and having learnt Hypnosis from Osho, my father used to teach him magic tricks whenever he requested. I guess it was due to this proximity, somewhere in 1970s, my father held a Press-Conference on Osho's behest and challenged Sathya Sai Baba. Mr.Anand said that SSB's spiritual intentions were good for the society as spirituality is good for all, but that SSB should stop fooling gullible minds by claiming that the knick-knacks he produces have anything supernatural about them. Then Mr.Anand proceeded to produce a half-meter high stack of ashes from "thin-air" and a Water-Melon from nowhere(SSB is known for his pinch of ashes and fruit production). Blitz was the most popular publication in Mumbai then, and had covered this Press-Conference headed "The Laughing Sadhus" apart from other publications covering the Conference widely. To the best of my knowledge, Mr.M.J.Akbar(Deccan Chronicle) was with Blitz in those days.

By Anonymous, at 08 March, 2009 18:43
The last post which is posted as Anonymous seems quite suspect. For one the person is posting as Anonymous bur writes about the peron's father JADUGAR ANAND. If this is legit then Akash would have indentified him self. So are you Akash?

By Anonymous, at 16 March, 2009 07:44
hey, You are saying that all the devotees of Sathya Sai Baba are Un Educated. u say that they belive baba blindly.
The person who the India is proud, the person who inspires youth of the nation, the past president of India Dr. APJ ABDUL KALAM is an ardaunt devotee of baba. Do u know on the 81 birthday of Bhaghawan Sri Sathya sai baba he came to have a darshan of baba and waiting for baba to come. Mean while the delegates of the trust offered him a chair to sit but he refused him to sit on the chair and sat on the floor. And dop jnow who accompanied him beside is the Past Chief Justice of Supreme Court Dr.Bhagawathi.

SACHIN TENDULKAR, the best crickter india have ever produced is a great devotee and follower of baba. Do u know he carries an iron box which contains his cricket material to the tours he go. Once u open it there will be a large phoptograph of baba.

Do u all these people blindly belive baba. The list goes on like tamil super star Rajinikanth, AB Vajpayee etc.

Do u think althese people are fools beliving baba and waiting for his darshan for hours hours together.

I think u have started this blog so that people like me would spend time to read and post the blogs.

Dont make baseless coments. Comment baba with a clear proof then the people will belive.

By Anonymous, at 16 March, 2009 12:54
Hi HH,

Yes I do agree that many of the devotees are illiterate to the scriptures. But won’t you agree that everyone has a choice. Even ignorance is a choice. You have made the effort to verify the teachings and even that was a choice that you had taken. You could easily have gone the other way and remained ignorant. But when you do speak to most people, and this is not just Sai baba devotees but most people on this planet, many if not all have no desire to even make the effort of reading scriptures or other works particular to their faith. In India you have millions who claim they are spiritual but outside of ritualistic prayers and poojas the whole jing-bang do not read the scriptures or even meditate for that matter. Even if you tell them that they can really understand more if they read the scriptures or meditate, the whole lot will make some sorry excuse like “God will take care of me” and yet in the same breath they will say that they are spiritual.

What ever it is those people still have made a choice. Even Sai baba’s devotees have made a choice to follow and so have you when you chose to leave Sai baba.

Can anyone be blamed for making a choice even it’s under a specific standard incorrect? Each person is free to make their own choices and I do not think its right to expect people to change their choices based on the position you have taken. So what even if the choice was based on ignorance, because even the state of ignorance is a choice?

When we talk about Sai baba’s devotees they are mostly adults and are very capable of making decisions and choices on their own. Don’t you think that it’s better to leave it to the people to find out on their own rather than trying to change their views through your “exposes”?

Man with a Big Mouth

By Anonymous, at 17 March, 2009 11:59
Dear Man with a Big Mouth,

yes it is certainly the choice of Sai devotees to follow Sai Baba even if they are (wilfully or innocently) ignorant of the fact that he doesn't really represent the Vedic teachings as he claims to do.

However, it strikes me that when somebody does point out these inconsistencies and inaccuracies, it leads to the realisation that faith in him is untenable. So that's really what I was trying to do, point out all the things that are wrong in Sai Baba. People can listen and retain the freedom to make up their own minds, I guess.

By Swami Saiexposedananda, at 17 March, 2009 20:34
Also, it seems to me that the majority of Sai devotees are not very well known for their critical thinking.

By Swami Saiexposedananda, at 17 March, 2009 20:36
Hi H.H,

That’s exactly my point. Let’s take the example of your departure from Sai Baba. I am sure you will agree that there wasn’t any “pointing out” which you depended on. You made the decision on your own and did not depend on another’s view point. Shouldn’t the same be applied to people who you are targeting? I mean when you present your opinions you would invariably influence their judgment. So in effect, people will not make their own minds but may come to a conclusion based on the influence of what you are presenting.

I don’t think this is what is meant by making up one’s mind on any matter. Each person will experience whatever they experience and will react differently. Some will experience Sai Baba as the divine, others may not. Some may experience the divinity and later may dismiss it. That does not mean that the one who dismisses what they may have experienced should go about trying to bring people to their view point. Because ultimately what you are propagating is your version of the truth based on your experiences. Not everyone will have the same set of experiences that you have had. So how can you expect other people to change their views of beliefs knowing very well that you are influencing their decision?

Man with a Big Mouth

By Anonymous, at 18 March, 2009 11:05
On the post about JADUGAR ANAND, the person claims to be the son and refers to JADUGAR ANAND as his father. Towards the later half of the post, "father" has changed to "Mr. Anand. Hehehe. If this is not a fabrication I do not what is. Mud slinging yoohoo!!

By Anonymous, at 22 March, 2009 09:41
Hello, whoever you are.H.H. Swami Saiexposedananda you doing a lovely job thank you for giving me a chance to helping you expose the religious Mafia.
GOD Krishna came to this planet 5000 years ago since then all hell as been let loose take care my friend and read gita pocket book by GITA press for 100 rupees

Dear friends please stop quarrelling stop being childish.
stop getting confused and look for God in the right place?

People who have religious ambitions get reincarnated as being leaders of a religion and those people like to pretend to be a God or Goddess continue, when by the laws of nature, have all the same qualities as having been created by some body greater than themselves.

When we Speaker of God Almighty the all powerful
There are so many millions of false gurus who miss represent him.

These stupid idiots who claimed that they have made everything by doing a few stupid tricks or being able to brainwash people into buying religion and their particular brand of it.

I happen to know somebody who has met God Almighty YES that person who has created every single thing from small atoms, large planet's, solar systems galaxies and universes they are in hiding knowing how evil can take on the disguise of being good.

Let's go and see if all these stupid idiot can create all of this
or modify it substantially in the meanwhile been subjected to the laws of nature they continue to get old and very ugly.
and want to enjoy having money and sex for free.

In fact every single holy man since time in memorial
that has not surrendered to God properly continues to pretend along with their followers all kinds of
prophetic pretensions for these days remember all religious activitys are corrupted by hypocrisy.

The poisonous nature of this is exposed by many good organisations or brave individuals, to expose these cults we all have to continue to denounce their followers who are assisting in the massive deception.

By denouncing all religious hypocrisy because at the present time every single guru on the planet has no proper validation or authorisation from God Almighty the all powerful the planet Earth has continued to be a hellish place for the last 5000 years.

PS. I apologise for not proof-reading for this material.

By Anonymous, at 04 April, 2009 16:54
To "Man With Big Mouth":

Forgive the editing, but here is a shortened version of your comment in reply:

"I mean when you present your opinions you would invariably influence their judgment. So in effect, people will not make their own minds but may come to a conclusion based on the influence of what you are presenting ... ultimately what you are propagating is your version of the truth based on your experiences. Not everyone will have the same set of experiences that you have had. So how can you expect other people to change their views of beliefs knowing very well that you are influencing their decision?"

Seriously, what kind of argument is this, and what exactly is supposed to be achieved through this line of reasoning?

By the same token, I can easily question why so many people have faith in Sai Baba. I mean, how many people have direct experience of Sai Baba's divinity without having first heard about it from somebody else? Very few, like the Puttaparthi villagers of the 1940s. Even the earliest devotees heard about Sai Baba from others and came to visit him. Many people have been inspired to visit him after reading books about him from Sandweiss, Hislop, Murphet and many others, what is the basis of their faith and how did they achieve it after being "influenced" by the experiences and/or opinions of those writers?

Of course I have written my own experiences/opinions on this blog, knowing full well that it may influence other people to make or change decisions. What else am I expected to do?

It is helpful for critical information to be available for people to make a decision one way or another. One cannot afford to get carried away with the outright propaganda published in Sai books as "truth" and "history", some of which has been exposed on this blog as outright lies. People deserve to know both sides of the coin.

If after knowing about such things like the false claim of being the reincarnation of Shirdi Sai Baba, (Sathya) Sai Baba's earlier androgyny, the school records controversy, the little-known matter of Sai's residence in caves (apparently doing yogic sadhana), his incestuous genealogy, his blatant contradictions in teachings, and so many other things, if they still choose to know all this and continue believing in him as an avatar, why should I mind? It isn't for me to adjudicate about people's consciences or intellectual dishonesty.

By Swami Saiexposedananda, at 12 April, 2009 18:43
Dear H.H.,

I do understand where u are coming from. There are many things that are unknown to us in this world, being able to realize God is one of them. This world is filled with maya and is so confusing.

I do support ur claims. I have been thinking abt this topic for a long time and having read Shri Sai Satcharitra, Gita, and Ramayan, I can say that all of them have the same underlying ideas.

I can personally say that it is Shirdi Sai Baba who has led my life. I know for a fact that he is right and that is what matters to me.

It is only he who has taught me the way to live life, and I consider him as God and my father.

U had mentioned that u do believe that Shirdi Sai Baba is real. Well, I would just like to say in SSC, there is a part about Mavsibai, and Baba gets very angry when her way of bhakti is questioned. This is what I have even learned. In the name of Baba, I have many times tried to share many things about religion, but i realized that the way I feel only I I can.

Truth is that we come with our own karmas, and the state that we are in are only due to them. Do not sit here and increase bad feelings and bad karmas against u. God knows the truth, whether it means that Sathya Baba is real or not. He knows. He is omnipotent and omnipresent. He knows what to do what with each one of us, for even his soul is in us.

So, more than anything else...just because I can see that u are being greatly affected by this, I am not taking any sides, but I would just like to say that God can be found. I see him every day. U may not believe it. But, wouldnt u want to know if I were telling u the truth!

with best regards,
AK

By Anonymous, at 28 April, 2009 02:52
Dear H.H.,

I do understand where u are coming from. There are many things that are unknown to us in this world, being able to realize God is one of them. This world is filled with maya and is so confusing.

I do support ur claims. I have been thinking abt this topic for a long time and having read Shri Sai Satcharitra, Gita, and Ramayan, I can say that all of them have the same underlying ideas.

I can personally say that it is Shirdi Sai Baba who has led my life. I know for a fact that he is right and that is what matters to me.

It is only he who has taught me the way to live life, and I consider him as God and my father.

U had mentioned that u do believe that Shirdi Sai Baba is real. Well, I would just like to say in SSC, there is a part about Mavsibai, and Baba gets very angry when her way of bhakti is questioned. This is what I have even learned. In the name of Baba, I have many times tried to share many things about religion, but i realized that the way I feel only I I can.

Truth is that we come with our own karmas, and the state that we are in are only due to them. Do not sit here and increase bad feelings and bad karmas against u. God knows the truth, whether it means that Sathya Baba is real or not. He knows. He is omnipotent and omnipresent. He knows what to do what with each one of us, for even his soul is in us.

So, more than anything else...just because I can see that u are being greatly affected by this, I am not taking any sides, but I would just like to say that God can be found. I see him every day. U may not believe it. But, wouldnt u want to know if I were telling u the truth!

with best regards,
AK

By Anonymous, at 28 April, 2009 02:54
Hi HH,

Thrust and Parry!

Man with a Big Mouth

By Anonymous, at 14 May, 2009 11:20
Hi HH,

You may be familiar with the theory of Double Bind and psychologically this would create a situation wherein when one tries to do or change something the harder it becomes. It’s like trying to quit a habit. The more one tries the hard it becomes. It’s like trying to remove a barbed hook or something.

Yes I agree with you that you can mirror the same reason back to me, but I think maybe my communication may have missed the point I was trying to make.

What I am trying to say it that when a Sai Baba devotee who has been enmeshed in his or her belief for so long that when an opposing view point (or even facts as you claim) are presented the person goes into a Double Bind situation. So in effect what ever your motive will have an opposing effect on the devotees. You were not told to disbelieve. You had come to that conclusion on your own. When you do so you by pass the double bind. Not so with devotees. This is why I am saying that people have to make their choices on their own and through their own experiences.

You have been “exposing” the delusion but the delusion is on both sides. Just look at our friend who said “I happen to know somebody who has met God Almighty”. That somebody told him or her and the person believes it. The problem with people in general is that they are being anthropomorphic by projecting human characteristics to God and assumes that God has a brain and nervous system to experience what humans’ experience. And by saying one can see God is limiting the infinite to be “seen” by the human brain.

What you are dealing with are people and their beliefs. This is not the same as critiquing a restaurant and saying that that eating from that place is not healthy. If you ask people as to how do they know there is a God, if they are truthful they tell that they really do not know. What they know is what they have been told, read or conditioned through families. And this forms the bed rock of their belief system. Even to question that as a suggestion is sacrilegious and people will do all sorts of things to defend with is only a belief and not a reality to them. After all they have told that there is a God and they believe it. It is more plausible when we say “Drishti Srishti Vada” meaning 'Creation exists because we see it' or loosely implied as one sees what we want to see. So each person can have an opinion and may back it up with “fact” as he or she sees it.

We have learnt that the energy that holds on earth is gravity. Gravity pulls us towards the earth and the funny thing is scientists have so far not been able to find the energy particle which has been given a hypothetical name “Graviton”. Scientists have been able to find all other energy particles except this one. So in the absence of proof of a graviton can gravity really exist? Also we can ask are we being “pulled” by earth or are we being “pushed” down to earth? If you ask people about the existence of gravity everyone will agree because they have “told” that it exists and people believe it because it feels like the truth. There is a term used to describe the feeling, its called “Truthiness”. Stephen Colbert who coined the term describes it as "We're not talking about truth, we're talking about something that seems like truth – the truth we want to exist".

Would you try to debunk their belief in God which, if you compare, is the same as their belief in Sai Baba.

Man with a Big Mouth.

By Anonymous, at 14 May, 2009 13:58
Namaste to all, well, all I would like to add is that everyone is entitled to their own views and can comment on whatever they like. My fiancee is his devotee whereas I'm not and this has never caused any clash of belief or faith. We all should be free to pray or do our own things. I never force her not to follow sai baba and she on her behalf never ever force me. I have always believed that there is only one and it was the first one. Bless you all..

By Anonymous, at 05 July, 2009 22:40
The topic is giving me the giggles. Why I left Sai Baba in "brief(s)". Just throws up a whole lot of mental images! :D Hahaha!!

By Anonymous, at 15 July, 2009 08:28
how come the vibhuti is being appeared in amny homes abroad,.can anyone explain this?

By Anonymous, at 16 July, 2009 07:27
surprised to see so many of educated people mad of a trickster. wake up folks. God is the supreme force.. and one human treating another as God is not only ridiculous but crazy.

By Anonymous, at 06 August, 2009 19:12
Currently the world needs hope and Sai Baba provides hope. I am not a follower of Sai Baba but I love his teachings and find nothing wrong with them. Who am I to judge him whether he is right or wrong. All religions are good. People following them are bad..may peace be with everyone.

By Anonymous, at 06 August, 2009 21:05
Sir H.H.

I felt that you are wasting your precious time of your life by trying to save the time for others - devoting SB.
Am I correct?

Regards,
James.

By Anonymous, at 09 August, 2009 18:56
Dear James,

this blog hasn't published any new entries for roughly 3-and-a-half years. I think that should give an indication as to how I'm using my very valuable time.

Kind regards.

By Swami Saiexposedananda, at 15 August, 2009 01:33
SAI BABA IS A BIG FRAUD
he is not an avatar of GOD
no scriptures mention it
u fools go n read bhagwatam bhagwat gita
ONLY KRSNA IS GOD

By Unknown, at 24 August, 2009 21:45
So Asha, you read in a book that Krishna is God and you believe it. Have you truely understood what the Gita is about? How do you know Krishna was real? Just becoz a book say so? I recommend that you don't eat the pages in the Gita. Rather drink the nectar within you which is inspired by the words in the Gita. Looking within doesn't looking in your purse or pocket.

Man with a Big Mouth

By Anonymous, at 28 August, 2009 12:58
excuse meee, ur blogs are extremely upsetting . How on earth can u even talk like this about someone so holy. IF AT ALL U HAVE SOMETHING AGAINST HIM, U BETTER KEEP IT TO URSELF AND NOT PUBLISIZE IT IN SUCH A RUDE FASHION. There are crores of people who are devoted to saibaba which includes me .....and u have no right to write about our god in such an astonishingly bad way.....hope i have been polite enough to get things straight into ur skull!!

and better know that u never choose baba or leave baba its baba that chooses you and never leaves you now aloso baba is with you helping u in ur life hope u know that!sir sai ram

By Anonymous, at 08 October, 2009 11:02
Guess what! he has a ashram right in front of the SHIRDI sai baba mandir at lodhi road in delhi, which iss the most famous SHIRDI SAI BABA mandir in north india. What makes him invest crores in such a posh locality? Just to attract attention and SEEm to be associated with THE SAI BABA!!

By Anonymous, at 10 October, 2009 21:13
Hi Sir Sai Ram,

Can I ask you a question? I hope you will answer it honestly. How did you come across this blog? I am sure you did not just stumble into this blog. You must have been searching on the web search engines for “Sai Baba” plus “scam or cheat” and then landed on this blog! If that’s the case, which is in all probability, do you REALLY believe in Sai Baba?

I mean, if you really do believe in Sai Baba, as you claim, you would not go around searching for a blog to read and then defend Sai Baba. If you really do believe in Sai Baba, you wouldn’t care to search for any opposition to Sai Baba.

It’s like this, I know for a fact that I exist. I wouldn’t go around the web to search for a blog that states that I do not exist to defend myself and convince people that I exist. I wouldn’t care if a bunch of people states that I do not exist! The only reason why I would care was if I doubted that I exist. It would then lead to various defenses.

When people who claim are devotees of Sai Baba do such things, it’s very much likely that in truth deep down within them; they doubt the validity of Sai Baba. This is why they come on this blog to leave their defensive statements. It’s more likely they are trying to convince themselves of the validity of Sai Baba than to convince anyone else.

Instead of just leaving your defensive statements, which exposes your mentality that you are afraid to even acknowledge or examine, you should at least be honest with yourself, even if you lie to others. If you want to be a true devotee of Sai Baba, I suggest you develop some self integrity rather than pretending to be one when deep down you have inklings of doubt.

Man with a Big Mouth

By Anonymous, at 22 October, 2009 10:24
Yeah. That man is a fraud. That's all. Does God need to summon gold, collars, rings or watches to demostrate that he is God? for sure no. It's just a trick, a basic and stupid trick. C'mon guys, use your common sense.

I cant' believe so many inteligent and clever people believe things like these.

By Anonymous, at 23 October, 2009 22:20
I am sure most people would have read or heard the story of the “Emperor’s New Clothes”. The story is quite interesting and is generally regarded as a children’s story. The story is about a king who holds his affinity towards fine clothes above all else. Now 2 swindlers who know about the king’s obsession convince the king that they will make a suit of clothes with a special cloth that the world has yet to see and experience. This cloth, they tell him, is invisible to anyone who is stupid or unfit to appreciate the suit of clothes. In reality there is no such cloth but when the swindlers pretend to hold up the cloth for the king to see, the king of course could not see anything, but he pretends that he can for fear of appearing stupid. The king’s ministers also do the same.
When the swindlers report that the suit is finished, they pretend to dress him up. The king then goes on a procession through the capital showing off his new "clothes". Everyone who saw the king knew about the story behind the special set of clothes. Each person in the crowd also pretended to see the cloth because they also feared being branded stupid. Everyone was clapping and appreciating the suit of clothes.
Among the crowd was a small child who also saw the king. The child took one look al the king and cried out "the king is naked and has no clothes!" It was only when the truth rang through the crowd did the people come out of their self induced delusion. It was then that the people started laughing at the absurdity of the whole situation.
Just because all the people pretended that the cloth was real, the cloth does not become real. Even if the only person who tells the truth is against the majority, the cry of truth does not become a lie.
Just like the above story, we also experience the same thing in our lives. Some times even the cry of truth does not awaken us from the slumber of delusion. I am not saying what you should believe or what you should disbelieve. That; I leave it to each one of you. Call on your self integrality and consider the implications of the story and then examine your beliefs.

Man with a Big Mouth

By Anonymous, at 25 October, 2009 16:06
Hello Man with a Big Mouth,

as i read all the commets you worote i found u quite interesting..... for debating.......

I think u are just tring to debade neither supporting not opposing....

-Divya(not a devotee of ssb.....)

By Anonymous, at 28 October, 2009 12:38
Hi Divya,

I find it amusing that you would describe my comments as debate material. I apologize, because my comments would not fulfill the conditions of a debate. A debate requires one to position him or her self for or against and sticking to it. I am not explicitly positioning myself for or against because what we are dealing with are beliefs and beliefs cannot be changed just because someone says so. The change in belief comes from within. All the rest are just pointers to the fallibility of the belief.

Thousands of years ago people believed that the earth was flat. Anyone stating contrary to that belief was viewed as a heretic. Later people understood that the earth is not flat. But they still believed that the earth was the centre of the universe, which tied with the position held by the Catholic Church, till Copernicus came around. He was also branded a heretic till people changed their belief.

There is a lot of sense in the saying “you can take a horse to water, but you cannot make it drink”. This is especially true when it comes to beliefs. No one can just get up and say that the belief is false and expect people to just say “Yes! I see! Thank for telling me!” The change in the belief has to come from within the person and the foremost condition for that to happen is to open one self up to the possibility that the particular belief is false. If the person is not open to consider the possibility, then the only option is to go the way of the Spanish Inquisition.

If torture is out of the question, then the only thing left is to provide pointers and hope that the pointer clicks and one can then start the process of self examining the particular belief.

A belief is a psychological aspect and in psychology, one can not just force some one to change. Counseling and joint examination is required to come to terms with the belief and over come it. It’s not just as simple as saying “Your belief is wrong and I can prove it”. An approach if this nature invariably leads to one tightening their grip on the particular belief.

What I am trying (more precisely hoping) to do with my comments is to provide a seemingly unbiased position but with some pointers to, at the very least, start a sort of self enquiry. At best, it would provide some contrast to the current jousting.

Man with a Big Mouth

By Anonymous, at 01 November, 2009 08:32
Hello H.H,

I am not and have never been a follower of satya sai baba.I saw some videos on YouTube about his tricks and wayched the documentary 'The Secret Swamy' on BBC and I started to believe that he is indeed a fraud and is fooling people.

However I recently visited a friend who is an ardent devotee of satya sai baba. He has pictures of this man all over his house(kitchen, dining room.. I really mean everywhere!!)
On the surface on one picture there was some vibhuti!! I mean real scented vibhuti...

my friend has a big photo of ganesha in his prayer room. He told me that it was a miracle photo..He previously did not have any photo or statue of shri ganesha. He told me that sai baba once appeared in his dreams and told him to go check in his prayer room.
The following morning, he ran to his pooja room where he found this miracle photo near sai baba's paduka...

I am still amazed to this day about the photo full of vibhuti and the miracle photo!!

By Anonymous, at 26 November, 2009 15:16
mother meera put a curse on me and destroyed 20 years of my life, as she says in her book, she destroyed, and she ruined me i just want others to know about her.

By Anonymous, at 30 December, 2009 20:53
Does anyone writing for or against Sai Baba have any spiritual experience? I think our life is just 60-70 years and if we don't have any spiritual experience it is waste. our Main aim of getting Human birth is to meditate and get mukti....all are miracles or good things are in Nature. But God is Beyond Nature...our Organs..Body, Mind and intellect. If you are stasisfied with your teacher and your spiritual experience you are on right path. If you don't have any Spiritual experience ...start your journy towards final destiny now!!!!!!!!!!

By agnisurya, at 07 January, 2010 13:56
I just like the write above once believed that the belief of Sai Baba was exaggerated. As peculiar as some ideals maybe; I realised how my ignorance clouded the actual status quo of today.

Unfortunate words they are, I recently arrived back from a Zonal Youth Conference, during one of many satsangs among my fellow brothers, We touched upon the coming of the golden age. It is said that Swami will lose a majority of his devotees from now and the rise of Prema Sai. This is just one other example on how his words are true. It is up to the youth of today to spread the positivity among others.

By Chiraag., at 11 January, 2010 09:52
Hi Agnisurya,

Very nice to see your post which is a slight deviation from the generic trend in the previous postings.

Tell me something, when you say “God is Beyond Nature...our Organs..Body, Mind and intellect” then with what are you experiencing these “spiritual experiences”??

Spiritual experiences are just another aspect of the mind which is concocted to give life to the illusion. Also when you say “Human birth is to meditate and get mukti” that is a contradiction itself. Who is getting mukti? The one who is trying to get “mukti” from the same one?? This is like saying “I am trying to get rid of me”. If you try to get rid of yourself, you are still left with yourself. This will only go round in circles!!

People have spiritual experiences whether they are devotees or Sai Baba or not. But no matter what, these experiences are still mental constructs and nothing more.

Man with a Big Mouth

By Anonymous, at 11 January, 2010 10:37
Hi Agnisurya,

Very nice to see your post which is a slight deviation from the generic trend in the previous postings.

Tell me something, when you say “God is Beyond Nature...our Organs..Body, Mind and intellect” then with what are you experiencing these “spiritual experiences”??

Spiritual experiences are just another aspect of the mind which is concocted to give life to the illusion. Also when you say “Human birth is to meditate and get mukti” that is a contradiction itself. Who is getting mukti? The one who is trying to get “mukti” from the same one?? This is like saying “I am trying to get rid of me”. If you try to get rid of yourself, you are still left with yourself. This will only go round in circles!!

People have spiritual experiences whether they are devotees or Sai Baba or not. But no matter what, these experiences are still mental constructs and nothing more.

Man with a Big Mouth

By Anonymous, at 11 January, 2010 10:38
OH MY KIDS, ALL ARE WASTING THEIR TIME. ALL YOU ARE GODS. EVEN FROM BACTERIA TO HUMANS TO WHALES TO BIGGER LIVING THINGS ARE GODS.

ALL THE LIVING THINGS TOLD ABOVE ARE USING THEIR PARA NORMAL POWERS AND ENERGISE SRI SATHA SAI BABA TO ACT LIKE THIS. SO ALL THE LIVING THINGS HAVE MORE PARA NORMAL POWERS THAN SRI SATHYA BABA. SRI SATHYA SAI IS ONLY A PUPPET TO ACT ACCORDING TO THE COMMANDS OR TUNES OF LIVING THINGS. SRI SATHYA SAI BABA HAS TO DIE ONE DAY AND ALL OTHER LIVING THINGS.

AGAIN DONT WASTE YOUR VALUABLE TIME AND DO YOUR BEST THINGS TO GROW YOURSELF, YOUR FAMILY, YOUR SURROUNDINGS, YOUR NATION , YOUR WHOLE WORLD AND YOUR WHOLE UNIVERSE.

BY
GOD FROM HEAVEN AND EVERY WHERE.

By Anonymous, at 20 January, 2010 14:14
Hi Dad (God from Heaven & Everywhere),

Wow!! You just proved that you have a bigger mouth than I do!! No wonder you are my Dad!!

I guess I have to change my name to reflect that.

Kid with a Small Mouth (Formerly known as "Man with a Big Mouth)

Hehehe!!!

By Anonymous, at 24 January, 2010 11:26
Firstly there's no big moron like him calling himself god. Bloody fraud!!!!!! Doing some cheap tricks all time. I've started hating his name. So many sexual abuses on innocents and ashamed that government is doing nothing.

By Anonymous, at 29 January, 2010 11:42
You are so right! Keep up the good work..whatever he does is nothing but magic.. anyone can do that if properly trained.. he is no god.. safety and peace.

By Anonymous, at 06 February, 2010 06:19
I was a former 'sai student'.

I was raised by my lord who made me feel what God's love might be like.

I was also used by him. Sexually.

It ultimately left me very confused.

I loved him. I hated him.

I then saw him use others. Sexually.

I also saw that his so called 'miracles' were bait for millions to get suckered.

I lost my sanity and fled his fold.

I had spent all my life believing in something that was not.

I felt bitter and betrayed.

I made poor choices in my own life due to that bitterness in me.

For my own sanity ...I had to learn to forgive, love, and live all over again.

I don't believe in sai baba today.

I believe in my SELF!

Moral of the story: Every person in your life...good, bad or ugly is step on your own spiritual road. Move on!

By Anonymous, at 03 March, 2010 17:39
Mindless, please get in touch with me. You can find my email on my profile. Thanks.

By Swami Saiexposedananda, at 05 March, 2010 08:54
I have been studying about bacteria and found some fascinating information that will help people like you to learn more about yourself.

"God Exists Every Where", so you don't need a "God Man" to tell you how to live your life or what to do. Trust your instinct and never harm another living creature in this universe. You are not the creator or the minder in this world nor do you have the right to destroy another life.

When the earth was like Mars, single cell organism existed that thrived on carbon-dioxide. They excreted waste "Oxygen". Smaller bacteria evolved that thrive on this wasted oxygen and late got infected by another organism (now called mitochondria). This organelle lives in every cell and is called the power house.

We do not get mitochondria from our father but the mitochondria living in mothers cell will enter the ova it is fertilised by a sperm. Mitochondria lives in every living cell (bacteria, animals and plant cells). I call this mitochondria "God" and so we must learn to respect every living cell in this universe and not chase "Godmen" to help us find "God".

Learn to respect your self and respect others and this is what life is all about and you will never go wrong nor do anything you regret when you die.

By Anonymous, at 09 March, 2010 11:18
So are you sai baba devotees saying your Guru can materialize things from thin air?

Did you even watch the BBC video, where they clearly show how your beloved guru CHEATS all his followers, its the LAMEST magic trick ive ever seen, but yet you people choose to believe it.

Well, what can i expect from people who choose to worship a normal human as god? LOL

By Girithaara Ramanan, at 15 March, 2010 07:49
Do not compare The Great Divines like Buddha. Nabi Mohamad,Jaisem,Jesus to the greatest fraud sai"TAN" Baba"rian"
They didn practice double standard by cheating the poor by giving only ashes, and gold chain to the rich.They dont have to perform fraud tricks to be popular and neither did they commit 6 murders in their bed room, pedophile and murder threats using political influence for those against him.

By Anonymous, at 15 March, 2010 15:40
Why are you so interested in Satya Sai baba - if there is something wrong wit him - police can catch him. Why are you so much interested in maligning him - whats your personal interest. If his karma is bad he will suffer - why dont you bother about yours

By Anonymous, at 06 April, 2010 11:17
It is sad to know that humans are worshiping humans, when its human nature to make mistakes and errors. Its these kinds of blind faith that has brought mankind into such a silly status of life.

God cant be within us, we cant even begin to imagine what god is like, that is the basic fundamental of a creator i guess. All mighty, all knowing, Eternal. Where as we all die (so we cannot say a part of god has died). I wish you all good luck in finding the righteous path.

God can only be described by his character, never in physical features.

By Anonymous, at 27 April, 2010 04:56
Hi Anonymous at 06 April, 2010 11:17,

I can see what kind of person you are. You are walking down the street and you see a man robbing another person, then you see another man breaking into a gold shop, then you see a man planting a bomb. You say to your self “Ah! How wonderful the leela of Baba is!”

You do not see a crime, just some people going about doing their thing. If asked why you are not reporting these crimes, you say “These people will suffer their karma. I do not have to worry about reporting it”. May be you are the kind of person who believes that the divine will feed you, so you do not bother to take the food with your hand and put it in your mouth. You maybe even the kind of person who does not bother to vote because you believe that divinity will ensure that the country will have good people in government.

If you have an iota of self integrity, you would not say what you said. Think about that. Are you denying what people are saying or are you denying yourself from even acknowledging the truth?

From,
Kid with a small mouth.

By Anonymous, at 04 May, 2010 13:07
Hiii...Still Baba bless you...
You should realize one thing,there r crores of believers follow Baba's path.This is not bcoz of the publicity of Bhagawan made by materilizing anything.Peoples are still believing Saibaba by their own experiance that happend in their life.

By Anantharaman T P, at 21 May, 2010 14:37
What kind of man spends his life critizing others. For you Sir, you have done as countless men before you, all in the name of ego, if you aim to create doubt in the minds of God devout people, then you sir are out rightly bad company. Get a life, do something constructive to help others not harm them as you are doing. And if you don't think you are harming others I can tell you now that you have harmed me.

Forgive yourself Sir. And move forward with Love as your prime motivator.

Om Tat Sat!

By Anonymous, at 26 May, 2010 23:58
Hi Anantharaman,

Are you familiar with the difference between Sruti and Smriti? Basically, divinity is referred to as Brahman in Sruti and Brahman is without attributes, form etc. In Smriti, divinity is referred to as ishwavra and is given form and we are given a sort of biography of the personified ishwara. So why this contradiction between Sruti and Smriti? Because of Brahman is without attributes how can it be with form in Smriti?

But if you really look closely, the teachings that the personification says in the Smriti is exactly the same as the teachings in Sruti.

The reason behind this that people in general could not grasp or understand what the message is in Sruti. So the sages of old created personifications and people were told to worship the personified forms. When people go through the rituals long enough, they develop bakti or trust. Then the people are taught through the personified form the teachings in Sruti. By that time people would have meditated on the form long enough to reach a level where they will be able to grasp the concepts in Sruti. You may have come across the teaching “meditating on the form will take you to the formless”.

But the funny thing is that many of “the crores of believers” who have been devotees for 20, 30, 40 years are still stuck with the form!!! Aaah! May be they will move to the formless in the next life! ;-)

Anantharaman, you said that people are believers not because of the materializing publicity. Can you tell me exactly how a devotee introduces Sai Baba to someone who has never heard of Sai Baba? Do they just say “Come there is man in Puttaparthi. He is Avataara Prursha. Come and pray to him”? Or do they give an explanation of who Sai Baba is and tell all the stories of miracles and of course materialization and so on. Can you show me one person who spontaneously became a devotee?

If you and I were living in the year 1200 and I told you the world is round, you would have pulled out your sword and slashed me for heresy!!!

It takes courage to at least consider that ones beliefs are false. Fear of the unknown prevents that. Only in saying to yourself “Okay maybe my belief is false. Let me try and find out the truth”. Be at the very least honest with yourself.

From,

A Kid with a Small Mouth

By Anonymous, at 01 June, 2010 09:08
Divinity is a strange thing. Jiddu Krishnamurthy had said once that if we take an ordinary rock from our garden and the put if on a pedestal and every day just pray to it and wave incense sticks and decorate it with flowers. After some time, like a month or two, that rock will then get to attain the same divinity of “God” IN OUR MINDS. If anyone then tries to convince us that the rock is just a rock, we will dispute the fact with many defenses. We may even start to quote miracles that has happen in our lives which we attribute to the rock.

You will notice that the modern gurus have programs that last for 21 days all held in closed scurity of their ashrams. In those programs, they will teach a lot of stuff like meditation, contemplation etc. But always during those 21 days, they will instruct to surrender to the Guru. Develop faith in the Guru.

There is a book called “Change Almost anything in 21 days” by Ruth Fishel. Basically how this works is that when we engage in something for at least 21 days, neural pathways are created in our brains that help to solidify that pattern. It’s more like building a habit. So when people are told to glorify the Guru for 21 days in their ashrams, the Guru becomes divinity. Yes they also instill habits like meditation and contemplation. But the object of the meditation and contemplation is the Guru and nothing else. So you see these people will be trapped with the Guru and never progress.

The scriptures instruct the truth. But when that truth is told to us by someone, it will always invariably be an interpretation of that person. That interpretation is just that- on opinion and not the truth. If you want the truth go to the scriptures. You will then get you own “opinion” but as you reflect and ponder on the scriptures, the layers of our understanding get subtler and subtler till we are just with the truth in its absolute.

Why are we not going back to the scriptures? Is it too hard or difficult? We can put in our heart and soul and learn how to become computer savy. We can learn to drive a car till it becomes second nature. We can learn to travel around the world. We can learn the intricacies of the stock market so that we can make money from our investments. But read the scriptures? No that too difficult! We want to hand held and be “told” what the truth is never questioning what we are told.

Is this the way to the truth? Following someone?

I have come across many people how use the story of the philosopher meeting a Zen monk asking to the taught the truth. The Zen monk pours tea in a cup till it starts over flowing. Not able to bear it much long, the philosopher tries to stop the Zen monk saying that the cup is already full to which the Zen monk replies “Just like the cup you are also full. How can I teach you what Zen is?” Please using this story assumes that the philosopher has to empty his knowledge and then fill up on the teachings of Zen. True Zen is in the emptiness of teachings and opinions. It is only in letting go of all concepts and teachings that the “Zen” is realized.

But are people ready to let go and empty themselves. Bereave themselves of their concept of God and Guru in order to seek the truth within them using the scriptures? Too difficult? Then life will always be like the Gordian Knot…too difficult to unravel but too easy to admire. This Gordian Knot of a life is your cycle of life and death.

From,
Kid with a small Mouth

By Anonymous, at 03 June, 2010 12:16
you need not write about something unless you know something about it.better you really know sai philosophy and start talking about it then.you total idiot.Ending this sorry for using harsh words. sorry SAI RAM

By Anonymous, at 30 July, 2010 15:33
what a loser..if u dun have faith then why talk bout him???no other work izit>>not triyin to defend anyone but like i juz said..why bother??if u left him then just move on why talk bout the past??think before u talk of judge will you??=)

By Anonymous, at 31 July, 2010 10:03
It seems like you didn't quite go well with Sai Baba's preachings and his philosophy of life. Then as somebody pointed out, just MOVE ON! Don't get yourself stupid in writing these worthless and wasteful blogs trying to dissuade someone from following Baba. You didn't state at any point in your blog why you left and it makes me hard to believe you were with Baba for ten years. Why couldn't be you someone having personal grudge on Baba and publishing these detrimental blogs on individual's faith. Its waste of time in replying to your blog. I pray God to be merciful towards people of your kind and don't get excited in replying to this as I'll not be revisiting your blog.

By Anonymous, at 31 July, 2010 19:27
hi mr.
nice to see ur dramatic story.i think u never got any chances in any kind of drama.and in my views u r the greatest fool i have ever seen. sss baba never asked u to be his devotee. u urself became his devotee for so called 10 yrs. i hope in these 10 yrs at least u should be knowing that sss baba is the embodiments of everything(it includes patience also). i m pretty sure that u don't have anything called patience.who knows what all sins u have committed in ur previous births & also in this birth. & mr. u want to get liberation by just coming to sss baba. it is not possible. at first u will have to do some good work & then think of something fruit ful. & u did one great mistake in leaving sss baba. i m pretty sure that one day u will realize it urself.(i m telling from my own experience)

By Anonymous, at 05 August, 2010 05:27
hey mr.
acc. to u sss baba is not a god ,this time will only prove to u(what is the reality)but i m pretty sure that he is not big rogue like u.in my views u r a big sinner,idiot.....&what ever bad karma is there(& u have been doing) everything is u.such a sinner how can u ever write such thing abt people.in my views u don't even deserve to live this world. really one day will come when u will realise the reality.& be prepare to face all ur bad karmas including this(which is the greatest)

By Anonymous, at 06 August, 2010 06:11
hi mr.
really i feel sorry for u .i can see ur end day approaching. & this also i know that u never stayed with sss baba for a decade . it was some days less than that.& without understanding baba & writing like this will not put baba down but on the other hand it will increase his fame.how much ever time u will try to prove baba wrong , double of those many times baba's fame will increase.but be ready to face ur bad karma fruit.only sss baba might save u from this.so, pray to baba.

By Anonymous, at 06 August, 2010 06:18
Hello!

I was just wondering why anyone should ponder/discuss so much over this, wasting all their precious time which could be utilized in doing something useful.

Dear H.H. -- I think, people who have deep rooted belief in Sai Baba will continue to have the belief. In fact, they may admonish you for your recent change in thoughts. IMHO, hardly any of these devotees are going to lose belief in Sai Baba because of this Blog series. Whether they will cling on to their belief OR not is completely based on what is in store for that individual alone.

So, why not, everyone on the face of this earth continue to believe in whatever they want to believe in. If a change should come, it Will... if not, it simply Won't --- be it for the Better or the Worse. So, if we can think that every person has his own mind (call it whatever), since human beings are gifted from that standpoint, we should try and stop influencing other people's beliefs by thrusting our own beliefs. So, keep our beliefs to ourselves because even if we try to inject our beliefs into others, what is destined (if you believe the term- destiny) for an individual is that individual's alone and it will not impact the destiny of others in any way.

Regards,
SVK
(Just a mere human being neutral to this blog discussion)

By Anonymous, at 22 August, 2010 19:23
brilliant work!
i am soo happy that fraudster is suffering from his karma
but at the same time i cant understand why so many saicreeps are spamming this blog?
and my what filthy language.. i guess this is the language in which mr SSB delivers his pravachans.
its sad to see the sight of young impressionable minds of indians being warped by illogical teachings of these so called godmen..
!!
and lets hope no other trickster 20 years from now claims to be the reincarnation of SSB

thanks mr hh
what a wonderful blog to read :)

By Anonymous, at 03 October, 2010 10:02
Sai baba is a demon possessed man, no wonder, I hate this whole crap about Hinduism, they worship every frog, tree, creature.

This is one of the reasons I admire Islamic nations they would get rid of a rubbish conman like him in no time. Can this man go around opening the zips of little boy and have filim stars, scientists and presidents bowing down in an islamic state?

I am a Christian not a Muslim, and I can tell you, I wish many times when I see men like him crawl all over India, that Aurungzeb had indeed won and spread Islam throughout India.

I don't mind paying zirzya and being a dhimmin in an Islamic state than to watch sane human beings go and bow down before this pedophile and call this pedophile a "god".

Jesus Christ died, but he came back to life.

If sai Baba can be resurrected after his death and live eternal life, I will believe in this clown. Promise.

By Anonymous, at 23 November, 2010 06:11
Hi Swami SaiExposedananda,

I like that name. I glad to see your work exposing frauds like Sai Baba. Indians are very sensitive about their Baba. But Hinduism does not need these fraudulant avatars. Good work, keep it up!

By RadhaMukunda, at 24 November, 2010 12:14
U have been a sai devotee for ten years but with zero faith....u hv not become close to him.....all the dougt that u had have resulted in u going away from him....u have God in human form staying with you....so take up this golden opportunity......not after his death that you will say....baba where r u...anyway it all depends on u know...its your opinion.....hope u will think again....baba will surely forgive you....though he is never angry

By Umangish Vastav Chumun, at 02 December, 2010 10:56
My name is Hari and I am a madhva brahmin, and I congratulate you.
Sai Baba or some other swami cannot be god , those who have studied veda will knoew that.
Lord Vishnu is said to be tri yuga avatari, he do not take any physical avatara in kali yuga. Kalki avatara is in pralaya kala i.e., b/w kaliyuga end and satya yuga starting.
Even Swami Raghavendra did many miracles and he never said he was god, or it was his own power.
He also enetered brindavana alive.
Sai is nothing but a fraud if he calls himself god.

By Hari, at 11 December, 2010 09:14
I urge all of you "devotees" to take a step back and really evaluate this objectively. My husband and his family are big believers until I heard of abuse. I started researching this and was shocked at the evidence. Forget the molestatations, please defend the executions of four your students in the mandir while sb was hiding behind the door. The ashram ordered the police to kill the four students execution style. There was no need to kill them. They only had knives and no guns. They could have been taken into custody and questioned. Ask yourself, why would four young boys want to kill the very man who is giving them a "free" education and a chance for a "better" life? If you step back and evaluate this, it's not difficult to figure out. I got on a plane for three hours to meet a young man who was molested for over two years by sai baba. He was manipulated and told he would never see his parents if he told anyone. I have spoken to another young man in India via phone who told me was molested twice in one week. His mother believed his story but his father didn't. His mother stood by him and his father left them. Sad! Be objective. This man lives a lavish life with a collection of expensive cars. He is transported to festivals in a 22 carat gold throne while people on the other side of the fence are starving to death. How sad! That is not the qualities of the divine. This man is sick and gives a beautiful place like India a filthy name. Google "the secret swami". It is a fair documentary done by the BBC. It gave sai baba a chance to speak out about the allegations of abuse. He needs to face his accusers once and for all and stand trial like the rest of humanity. He is a sick pedophile and needs to engage in homosexual activities with other "consenting male adults" not young innocent boys who have no voice.

By artis, at 05 January, 2011 18:59
Dear H.H.
You will be doing a great service to the entire humanity if everything said negatively on SB
is correct.
If they are not, then all of you who are throwing this much shit on SB must be very severly punished too, just like SB should be if all the allegations are true.
Fair enough?.
My question to all of you would be:
How come, the Mighty Media with all its state-of-the-art technologies is still not able to present solid proofs of SB's sexual allegations?.
Why is the world taking this much time to prosecute SB?.
Many bloggers have come up with very interesting comments, esp. The Man with a Big Mouth OR the Kid with a Small Mouth!.
Some of you are very well-informed on many things, esp. related to Religion.
Very good to know.
Finally, some of us thought that we've found the Right Guru to obtain proper spiritual experiences, only to be shocked by all these revelations!.
Pls. all you who are trying to expose frauds,Be Very Careful.
Your lives may be in danger too.
Thx & GOD BLESS.

By Anonymous, at 10 January, 2011 06:57
I apologize for any typos.
I noticed one in SEVERELY!.
Ironic!.
Space near Be Careful is also a typo.
Sorry.
Hope to hear back from all of you on the Blog, esp. from you H.H. & The Man/The Kid with a Big Mouth...
THX.

By Anonymous, at 12 January, 2011 10:54
Hello HH,

I arrived at this blog after reading an interesting section in Michael Talbot's book, The Holographic Universe. In general I like this book a great deal and have read it often as it makes sense to me on a lot of fronts. (Have you read it?)

However, I had to do further study after Talbot mentioned Sai Baba and related information as if it were true, such as Sai Baba's miracles and materializations. I'm wondering how a great mind like Talbot can believe so easily when such rock-solid proof of Baba's fraud is available? Unfortunately it makes me call into question the contents of his book in entirety. This is unfortunate because much of what he asserts is, in fact, sound. One bad apple though, no? Spoils the whole bunch.

In any event, thank you for this blog. It's been TREMENDOUSLY interesting reading your views and the viewpoints of others.

I want to support the work you did here (I realize you're no longer updating) because irrespective of man's right to believe what he will, it is also the right of others to haul darkness into the light.

Peace!

(p.s.: You mentioned in one of your comments that you felt science and spirituality were mutually exclusive. I'd love for you to expound on that, as I tend to disagree. Thanks!)

By Peau, at 17 January, 2011 18:07
...apologies. You said science and RELIGION were mutually exclusive, not science and spirituality.

So then, as it turns out, we agree again. :)

By Peau, at 17 January, 2011 18:11
My conclusion by the Sai Baba devotees comments on here, is that they are psychologically weak or damaged. I hope they get the real help they need soon.

By Anonymous, at 28 January, 2011 08:37
Dear H.H.
We all miss you very much.
No time?.
Pls. update your blog.
Any help required in exposing frauds like SB, if true, we would all help you.
Hope to hear back from you ASAP.
And, from The Man with a big mouth
OR small mouth too!.
Only if you get on board, lots of other interesting bloggers will do too.
THX.

By Anonymous, at 31 January, 2011 06:41
I really liked reading your blog. I recently joined the Sai Baba group although I previously had various inhibitions about it. I still don’t believe that Sai Baba is God. But the Sai Baba groups around the world have been doing many charitable things and they have helped many people over the years. At least that is something we should all appreciate. There may be many things that may not be right with Sai Baba’s preaching’s but we shouldn’t forget about the various positive things that have happened because of him and his followers. All of us get so caught up in our daily routines that sometimes we need that extra motivation to start helping people. So if Sai Baba is the inspiration that people need, then why not? Who really cares about the inspiration as long as something good is coming out of it?

By Unknown, at 26 February, 2011 06:40
and this is for the people giving the blogger so much HATE...c'mon guys get a life he's just expressing his views!!!

By Unknown, at 26 February, 2011 06:45
HI
this is krishna from puttaparthi, you can not say anything unknown thing

By Anonymous, at 23 March, 2011 10:01
Mr.HH,

Contrary to you telling the devotees, I find your blog lacking reason. For instance, this one where no one gets a "clear" idea of why you left Sai Baba. In all, your blog appears spiced with adjectives denouncing the Baba repeatedly. As much reason and evidence would've served the purpose you're apparently set out to.

By Anonymous, at 04 April, 2011 16:49
You are killing him with your words! That is why he is in the hospital- YOU!

He is so sick now because he cannot heal himself like he has miraculosly healed so many others. He has to turn to western medicine and hospitals to be healed because you are stealing his spirit through dark magic!

Stop hurting him, he never was sick before, and could even heal people at will! Such a man could never be sick, he is immortal and would heal himself if he ever suffered the slightest ailment- as he healed so many others.

Your website is KILLING the man now! Please stop befor you kill the immortal god!

By He who walks in silent obediance, at 07 April, 2011 04:41
Fuck the immortal god. He should die before more innocent people around him die. Why Indians are so stupid to go after people like that. sai baba is not the only fucking man, you name them, there are many and many more yet to come looking at the way the fucking Indian’s believe in superstitious things. May god save Indians from all the fuckers...

By Anonymous, at 12 April, 2011 11:58
sai is fake and fraud.i'll fuck him if he comes b4 me.fools believe in him.

By Anonymous, at 22 April, 2011 09:32
The 'god' is dead... Would you go and look out for a new 'god'... :-) for me, there's only one GOD who nvr dies and I can connect to him anytime by closing my eyes. I dont have to travel to Puttaparthi to meet any other 'god' or GOD's agent.
I thank GOD for that..

By I believe in GOD, at 24 April, 2011 08:52
You are wrong.He helped millions of people in every aspects of life.He gave absolute free facilities for people in hospitals school e.t.c.You say that you don't know sai baba.Then stop your stupid nonsense.

By Gopal Chandra, at 24 April, 2011 09:18
Faith is always 100%,it cant be 1 ,2 or 3 %.So if you believe some guru dont doubt on him or her.Or else believe on yourself and God.
You will see miracles only if you have faith ,because faith is above logics.
There is no doubt in that ,that he has done charitable works,which is in front of this world.
In this world when everyone is busy with his or her life ,when someone is thinking about others even if its 1 % why people have problem?

By Anonymous, at 24 April, 2011 19:39
I dont understand why people keep on critisizing others,if you dont want to believe dont believe but dont critisize others faith.Miracles can only happen when there is a faith.It is not the guru or God who does the miracle its your faith in that person or Idiol that does miracle.Faith is above logics whether its on God,Guru or its on yourself so have faith in whatever you do or follow or else dont do it at all.
You will surely see miracles if you have faith because faith is never 1,2 or 3 % its always 100 % or 0 % .
So have faith...

By Anonymous, at 24 April, 2011 19:47
Well, A farewell to an 'incarnation of God' who died about 8 years before he had predicted that he would.
Just goes to prove that his entire life had been an entire lie. May the Original God have mercy on his soul.

Genuine Apostles, Prophets, Saints, Swamis & Gurus show you the way to God, not try to become the Latter...

By Anonymous, at 25 April, 2011 05:48
Om Sai Ram.
Hi I am Abhijith
Baba has done a lot for the world.Its bad to write what you have written about baba.It amazes me that it took you 10 years to reconcile Baba's teachings with sanathan dharma.

By Anonymous, at 25 April, 2011 07:24
sai baba is not more than an idiot...

By $unny, at 25 April, 2011 07:27
Everyone has right to follow their own religion,gurus or rituals they want.
But it doesnot give you right to target others belief system.Every individual is different and they have their own religion,guru and traditions.Inspite of critising others we should respect all religions and gurus,and firmly follow what our heart allows.
Believe in our own religion and respect all.
Those who are writing bad words about Hinduism understand onething that Hinduism is a way of life,Hinduism is a religion which accept and respect all religion.
All religion give only one message of peace and love.
So whatever you follow ,follow it with your heart and maintain peace and love in the world.....

By Anonymous, at 25 April, 2011 15:49
Reading the comments of so-called Sai devotees, here in this blog and elsewhere, my conviction becomes stronger that this country is full of idiots and no wonder that we are surrounded by so many scams. Like the Sai-devotees, there are blind Sonia-devotees and ManMohan-devotees who can't see that their gods are cheating on them as well as the country. May GOD save this country.

By Shashank, at 28 April, 2011 15:37
Congratulations! Great job done here. I was just wondering how come he did not cure his own ailments...and ofcourse the whereabouts of the "HUGE" donations he received.... Had those been use in the proper manner poverty would have been eradicated in India. Im sure many would argue that the money has been used for hospitals etc(Just for show)... but Im sure there is lots of other "Unaccounted" money...The question why Satya has so many followers? India has from time immemorial been a country where people have been superstitious and can be misled easily... so a few miracles and some general "good talks" and LO a person becomes god..

By Anonymous, at 02 May, 2011 13:22
I agree with Anonymous (May 2, 2011). Satyanarayan Raju Sai Baba has been a fraud at the best and a cheat at the worst; no better than plethora of babas that we have in this country.

Let us resolve to expose such frauds and educate the masses from being blind-followers and superstitious.

By Shashank, at 03 May, 2011 05:09
This blog is full of Hatred and Anger towards Swami. Putting aside any thoughts of him as God, he has clearly done good for this world. He has devoted his life purely for mankind. He has given opportunities to thousands who thought that it was never possible. Unless you can put your hand on your heart, and say that from the age of 14, you have spent every day of your life serving mankind, your Blog is absolutely meaningless and its content is worth nothing.
To all non-devotees, please remember that although you may think that he is a fraud and is a cheat, Swami will always be there for you and when you run back to him, he will be with open arms.
Love and Light,
14 year old devotee from London, UK

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